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Originally posted by Royal76
The Bible is the word of God through People . Do you honestly think if one of the writers believed in stoning people for this or that it wouldn't be in the bible?
Originally posted by DerekOneSeven17
Why would a loving god create the food chain, where animals are forced to kill eachother to survive?
Originally posted by Fett PinkusSo who do you think are the watchers in this case? And why did they turn away from the Evil Being who made this world?
Originally posted by Connected
Here is your answer....
In the realm of spirits, death does not exist.
Life is forever. Your soul never dies.
Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
What about the fact that many christians will say that the bible is the word of God and that the Holy Spirit spoke through those people and told them what to write down?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
He was also drowning in scandal. He flaunted his bi-sexuality and was involved in many court intrigues.
Originally posted by Fett PinkusI am having discussions going on about this exact topic with a born again christian and there is noway that he will believe anything else, he will either say that Satan has decieved the people saying that and that is why scientists will publish material saying so or he will say the only thing thats true is Gods Word and that is written in the Bible.
Originally posted by DerekOneSeven17
The being worshipped as the creator of this universe by monotheists is, in fact, A DEMON. According to the Bible, Yahweh commands his followers to, stone people, burn them to death, and even to massacre infants. He is not the True God of Love.
Originally posted by whatukno
I wonder where in the bible does it say that god is a nice guy?
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Originally posted by whatukno
I wonder where in the bible does it say that god is a nice guy?
Have you bothered to read the NT... or are you one who dismisses it out of hand? There are glaring inconsistencies between the God Jesus spoke of and the god of the Old Testament... That, to any unbiased observer, cannot be denied.
[Notice I put the word UNBIASED in bold type.]
Originally posted by dAlen
See the inconsistency though?
It appears from your post, if I am reading it correctly, that you admit that there is a difference in the God of the NT and that of the OT?
This gives rise to questions such as why is this?
Jesus is claimed to be God...so who is right?
But maybe its proof that God is multiple personality - no pun intended, (ie. father son holyspirit) See, we have gentle Jesus, who will come back, at the end of times, to slaughter all those he died and rose from the dead for.
So maybe the Bible is consistent after all. (the angry God of the OT, and the mean one of the NT)
But then again, maybe there is another way to look at it...maybe these are all semantics...and we are getting lost in the 'mind' in our arugments...are fixed postions and view points. Is there something we can take from the Bible as a whole?
Depends on how one looks at it.
Peace
dAlen
[edit on 6-3-2007 by dAlen]
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Huh, the angry god of the OT, and mean one of the NT? What? Jesus spoke of a God of love,forgiveness, compassion...That's not the god of the Old Testament at all. I'm confused about what you are trying to say
Originally posted by dAlen
You are a Christian are you not?
Is it true that you believe that the Bible is the infallible, ineffable word of God?
(The bible being both OT and NT)
How do you reconcile the God of the OT with the God of the NT.
Now we must remember, with evangelical Christianity, Jesus is the same God that spoke to Moses in the O.T. (John: "In the beginning was the Word...the word became flesh, etc.)
so how did Jesus have such a different personality in the OT.
See, I agree with you...the Jesus of the NT does seem very, very different.
Now we get the argument of under the law, and new covenant, etc.
But this would make God a liar, or inconsistent at best...from how the Bible currently reads.
Peace
dAlen
Well, while I certainly believe that the bible was transcribed by the prophets from messages from God,I also do not rule out the potentiality of the Devil being involved in some deceptions. Also, to argue that the bible has not been tampered with to suit the purposes of the powerful is arguing from ignorance, in my honest opinion.
Is it true that you believe that the Bible is the infallible, ineffable word of God?
(The bible being both OT and NT)
But this would make God a liar, or inconsistent at best...from how the Bible currently reads.
Originally posted by The time lord
I just like to say people who read the Old Testament do not really understand the whole story it seems, and why some things sound as bad as they do is due to not seeing the whole picture.