Interesting article from SEAS website

Interesting. Personally, I think this would be interesting (at least to me) to turn into a reality show. Someone comes up with an idea for an invention, and cameras follow their every move, every waking moment of the day to document how/who starts screwing with them in the process. Maybe a documentary would be better. I hope this company succeeds. I know for a fact that there are patents for magnet motors. Yes, those motors run on magnets. I would be fascinated (which reminds me) if I were to run into instructions for how to build one. Great post!

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I wouldn't be surprised if this Dr. Greer works for the government. The bad guys are saying loud and clear, "If you are an inventor of such secret technologies, please come in and we'll have you killed". It wouldn't be very smart of you to do this, since by now I'm pretty sure that the government would've killed Greer and his men if they were actually trying to disclose this stuff...Also assume that Dr. Greer is the good guy and all the smart scientists go to him to tell him about a new tech...The government would just wait for the right moment and attack covertly...

Originally posted by Gamma
I wouldn't be surprised if this Dr. Greer works for the government. The bad guys are saying loud and clear, "If you are an inventor of such secret technologies, please come in and we'll have you killed". It wouldn't be very smart of you to do this, since by now I'm pretty sure that the government would've killed Greer and his men if they were actually trying to disclose this stuff...Also assume that Dr. Greer is the good guy and all the smart scientists go to him to tell him about a new tech...The government would just wait for the right moment and attack covertly...

Are you saying the good guys who want these secrets exposed don't stand a chance of bringing the truth out?

LtPG97

If they were smart enough then they wouldn't make it public until they are fully ready. These guys, who keep saying that they need more money to make this thing public, are not even anywhere near ready. So they actually blew it(assuming they are "good guys") before they even started disclosing anything

If we had access to cheap power, it would lead to chaos.
I read somewhere that 80% of the average person's money goes to energy purchase. If the average person had free energy, he could survive and work 80% less and maintain the same standard of living.
We have seen how dependent the large corporations are on a cheap supply of labor. Illegal immigrants are good, if you are a corporation seeking maximum profits. If everyone worked 80% less, the cost of labor would go up.
On the other hand, if a free energy technology were released to public use, the profits for factories would increase as well. But the energy producers would have no market for their product.
Have you ever read about Nicola Tesla? He had a system of power production that anyone could tap into, but then, a company could not figure out where to put a meter for billing.
Out of context, but has anyone heard that Seattle wants to charge for rainfall? Greedy people always want to charge others for what God freely gives.
If everyone had cheap or free power, there may be a population explosion. Less work means more time for sex.
But wealthy people have plenty of time for procreation. So it's not really fair. The only thing that makes rich people superior to poor people is their money. They may be more educated, because of their money.
Maybe free energy is resisted because the rich and wealthy people are not educated or intelligent enough to solve the problems which they forsee as the result of such energy policy. We see the result of the current policy. The planet is being destroyed as man destroys nature to achieve energy.
The primates are going extinct as nature falls around them. Humans will be next. The snooty '"elite" are screwing up.
Man, I have got to go! My inner mechwarrior wants to destroy. I think I'll power up and go plant some pansies.

Free energy makes sense if you think about it...God didnt create the world then forget to invent electricity or energy supplies!! It's all there, naturally, for everyone to tap into! Governments are suppressing inventions that could give people free energy!

And whats wrong with that? Why would it lead to chaos? Its the utilities companies and the depletion of oil and gas that are creating the chaos and the wars, and misery for millions who can't afford it.

If our economic/social systems had to be modified because of free energy, humanity would adapt and survive. We did it in the industrial revolution, and we can do it again.

The problem is that people in power want to stay in power - contracts would be lost (i.e. Haliburton) and we can't have that, even if it's good for humanity.

If there is something to this, and if the people found out, there would be a revolution on such a scale as never seen before. Who knows, maybe free energy would make us rethink our motivations as to what we really want out of society (socialism would finally become reality?)

If I had free energy I would still work. I may not have to pay for electricity now but I still would have to worry about other bills. Phone, Cable, Internet, water, insurance, ect...

Sorry, but the BS alarms are going off. Free-energy, 100 mpg cars, etc stories have been around for decades. They're tantalizing, but I don't think they really exist.

1) PATENTS: Patents expire in 20 years, then anyone is free to use it. And, they're public - so anyone can read them, analyze them, make a little change to the process and patent it himself. That isn't happening.

Yes, your patent application can be grabbed and suppressed for "national security" reasons. That happened to a guy several years who was using steganography and encryption for telephone calls. He published the schmatics in Popular Electonics for everyone to use rather than lose it to the gov't. hehehe

2) INTIMIDATION, JAIL, DISAPPEARING: Talk to Phil Zimmerman about that (I have). The US gov't sure didn't want strong encryption readily available, but his PGP program 'somehow' made it onto the Internet for the whole world to use.

One other thing, free energy would wipe us out. Energy use would skyrocket, right? And most of it will eventually end up as thermal energy . . . heat. If global warming is a problem now, what happens when we start dumping huge new amounts of thermal energy into the oceans and atmosphere?

So we do the energy thing, and the military adopts it?
Would that mean more war, and unilimited capacity to exercise it?

I think not, since the military uses 60 per cent of our oil, if I am correct, and those companies, interlocking directorates, trusts, and cartels including banking, have been formenting wars since the invention of the abacus, when they discovered compound interest and loan sharking.

Face it, energy inventions, if handled right would create world wide prosperity, abundance, and a new largely pollution free commons.



[Edited on 30-1-2004 by SkipShipman]

Originally posted by SkipShipman
So we do the energy thing, and the military adopts it?
Would that mean more war, and unilimited capacity to exercise it?

I think not, since the military uses 60 per cent of our oil, if I am correct, and those companies, interlocking directorates, trusts, and cartels including banking, have been formenting wars since the invention of the abacus, when they discovered compound interest and loan sharking.

Face it, energy inventions, if handled right would create world wide prosperity, abundance, and a new largely pollution free commons.



[Edited on 30-1-2004 by SkipShipman]

What if the military is already using it and we're not being told? Hey, our government doesn't tell half of the stuff they're doing.