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Not be as affected by? Probably. Able to overfly? Absolutely not.
I think that systems like SA-20 and SA-21 might have to wait until the F-22 is within a few miles to launch at it, but the F-22 definately cant overfly these systems. Thats what gary powers thought before he got hit.
Most tactical, mobile SAMS can hit things 10-50 miles away, and I know the raptor cant fly that high.
I hope I am interpreting you statement correctly, correct me if I'm wrong
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Actually the processing power doubling bit is also kind of reached a choke point now. That area will cease to progress unless we start looking at radical new approachs like quantum or biocomputing..
Sorry, that is simply not the case.
Intel expect to produce their first 45nm parts before the end of this year (the Penryn core), both AMD and Intel have roadmaps for 32nm between 2008/2009. Both are developing new metal gates for the transistors which improve both current loss and switching speeds.
IBM has also developed DRAM to the point where it can be used for CPU cache, and they claim this effectively doubles CPU speeds immediately.
AMD are also looking to move Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) functions onto the CPU in the not too distant future (as part of the multi core designs - not all cores are the same), the advantage of this being the comparitively enourmous amounts of floating point operations (FPS) a GPU can perform (current GPUs perform around 10 times the number of FPS of the fastest CPUs).
Originally posted by Daedalus3
I was referring to Moore's Law. Of course there are various interpretations but Moore himself seems to believe that once atomic levels are reached, we will have to find another approach.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Originally posted by Daedalus3
I was referring to Moore's Law. Of course there are various interpretations but Moore himself seems to believe that once atomic levels are reached, we will have to find another approach.
So was I, but it will still take a long time to reach that scale.
You are right, when that level is eventually reached, improvements are going to have to come from elsewhere - but to be honest, I think we'd have all the computing power we'll ever need by then.
Originally posted by crusader97
It was a good point initially, but I think you overlooked the fact that military equipment (especially radars) just aren't upgraded frequently enough to take advantage of a huge boost in processing power. You also mentioned that intel and AMD would be moving to 32nm tech - but how many radars - airborne or otherwise have intel inside? Most military chips aren't OTS components...
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Originally posted by crusader97
It was a good point initially, but I think you overlooked the fact that military equipment (especially radars) just aren't upgraded frequently enough to take advantage of a huge boost in processing power. You also mentioned that intel and AMD would be moving to 32nm tech - but how many radars - airborne or otherwise have intel inside? Most military chips aren't OTS components...
Erm... I was under the impression that x486 (or was it x386) chips had been used in military equipment before.
Anyway, if the things were designed correctly from a electronics standpoint, retrofitting of new components would be straighforward - you make it "plug and play". However, as you well know - such an approach would rob missile companies of a large revenue stream - making updates more complicated than they are.
Cynical... me.... never!!!