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posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 06:25 PM
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George W. Bush
LAW ENFORCEMENT:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol.
I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been “lost” and is not available.
MILITARY:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.
COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University. I was a cheerleader.
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.
With the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected Governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR:
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in American history.
With the help of my brother, the Governor of Florida, and my father’s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.
I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
After taking-off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S.history.
I am supporting development of a nuclear “Tactical Bunker Buster,” a WMD. In my State Of The Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends. I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. president. In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any president in U.S. history.
I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in war time. I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. I’ve broken more international treaties than any president in U.S. history. I’m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My “poorest millionaire,” Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I am the first president in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government .
I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war” detainees) and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention. I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history.
My political party used the Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision. I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution.
More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history. I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security. I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my father’s library, sealed, and unavailable for public view. All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
Please consider my experience when voting in 2004 - Send this to every voter you know.



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 06:43 PM
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I have a response for this that I emailed a friend who sent it to me. When she forwards the email to me, we'll get the facts out, I don't feel like going through it again, the propoganda of it angered me



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 06:49 PM
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I love your name, by the way.

Now, don't you think this is more Pit material? Seriously.

Who'd you rather have, Dean? What I guy, goes to the draft board with a doctors' note about not being fit, and then goes to recuperate on a skiing trip. At least Bush signed up for the Guard so as to skip drill!!

As far as what the European "America will serve us and not herself" countries think, who cares? The Europe today is a picture of socialistic spinelessness that figures we should do their bidding and take whatever abuse we take along the way, just as long as we do not interfere with their making money off of the people that hate us. Who cares what they think, huh? Not me.



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
As far as what the European "America will serve us and not herself" countries think, who cares? The Europe today is a picture of socialistic spinelessness that figures we should do their bidding and take whatever abuse we take along the way, just as long as we do not interfere with their making money off of the people that hate us. Who cares what they think, huh? Not me.


Well said!



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 06:54 PM
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Hahaha, found it.
Very much of this is inaccurate. See my comments below to see what I mean:
>The White House, USA
>
>GEORGE W. BUSH
>ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
>
>I attacked and took over two countries.
Valid
>I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.
Valid-ish. Taken out of context, this comment is true. However, if you factor in that we were attacked by a terrorist action while many of our major companies were trying to figure out how to cut costs. As a result, millions of layoffs happened because they finally saw their exscuse. We also had just entered a war, and were totally unprepared.

>
>I shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history (not
>easy!).
See the last comment.
>I set an economic record for the most personal bankruptcies filed in any 12
>month period.
I don't know, so can't contradict.

>
>I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock
>market.
Biggest, maybe, but most devistating? No. Of course there is going to be a bigger drop then '29, then a car cost $5, now it costs $30,000. We have worse dips in the DOW in a day and people don't notice (in relation to the 1929 crash)
>I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
Valid.
>I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal
>record.
Not valid. Andrew Jackson had a criminal record, as did Clinton, and several others, though usually not federal.
>In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on
>vacation by any president in US history (tough to beat my dad's, but I
>did).
I don't know if this is true, but if it is, tough #, Bushey, the vacation is over!

>
>After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over
>the worst security failure in US history.
Yes, he presided over it, but Clinton created it.
>I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in
>US history.
I don't know, but it doesn't sound valid after reading Sell Out.
>In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
See my second comment.
>I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other
>president in US history.
And extended it to longer a longer time of being on it since FDR.
>I set the all-time record for most real estate foreclosures in a 12-month
>period.
Valid.
>I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
>president in US history.
This is HIGHLY dubious, but I don't know enough to say wether this is true or not.
>I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president, since the
advent of TV.
Valid.
>I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than
>any
>other US president in history.
Valid.
>I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
>intervene when corruption was revealed.
Hmmm, that's a very vague statement...
>I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
Did he, or did congress?
>I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously
>take
>to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record
>for
>protest against any person in the history of mankind.
That figure has been debated for ages, but even if it isn't, they were protesting that which is right and good.
>I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
International treaties made with a nation which no longer exists.
>I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US
>history.
VERY not true. By default, throughout the 1800s it was more secretive because there wasn't any means of communication. The unaccountable would have to be elaborated on, because I don't see how that happened.
>Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US
>history.
>(The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker
>named after her).
Don't know.
>I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union
>simultaneously struggle against bankruptcy.
There are 37 states in debt, not all 50, and you could say every company in the world is struggeling against bankruptcy, but some are doing it better then others (like Microsoft)
>I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in
>any country in the history of the world.
HAHAHAHAHAHA I would like to call attention to the 1929 stock crash again, which crashed because about half of the stocks being sold were bogus.
>I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military
>occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the
>United Nations and the vast majority of the international community.
We took Peru. We took Japan. We took Germany. We pulled out of Peru. And who is the vast majority? The people who are most outspoken?
>I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the
>history
>of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland Security"(only one
>letter away from BS).
Have we been successfully attacked since 9-11?
>I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases,
>more than any other president in US history (Ronnie was tough to beat,
>but I did
>it!!).
Ronnie didn't have a world war against a tough and determined enemy hiding in every corner of every nation without a nation of their own.
>I am the first president in US history to compel the United Nations
>remove
>the US from the Human Rights Commission.
Yeah, as punishment for disobeying France. We're sorry france! Continue to imprision people who may be guilty and forget to give them a trial. We'll continue to create suffering with out innocent until proven guilty policy.
>I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove
>the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
Valid
>I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
>congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US
>history.
Valid.
>I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
Unfortunatelly, he didn't. They're still trying to make the second amendment illegal.
>I withdrew from the World Court of Law.
Good. We're a soverign nation, not a state of a larger nation.
>I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by
>default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
That's funny, I remember seeing interviews with red cross workers who had been to guantanimo.
>I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election
>inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
AND HE WILL BE THE LAST! What other president will have the opportunity to refust UN election inspectors access durring the 2002 elections? I don't believe we ever have allowed them access.
>I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate
>campaign
>donations. The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also
>one
>of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy
>frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
This is probably valid.

>I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US
>history.
So it doesn't count if your party holds about 5 polls a day on your behalf to find out how you should respond to "sex"
>I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack
>(and
>then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1).
Read ANY military strategy, the first rule is take out the general, and the other first rule is protect the general. But we should be the exception, and leave the president in the city getting bombed.
>I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
Harry Truman had a shadow government. Teddy Roosivelt had a shadow government. Johnson had a shadow government. FDR had a shadow government. But Bush must have stepped into a time loop and created his before Truman's OFFICIAL shadow government (later to become the NSA)
>I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11,and in less than a year
>made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest
>diplomatic failure in US and world history).
This is pseudo-valid. We attacked, and we attacked hard, and I think we scared the hell out of the world with our efficency. If you're a nation, and you see the US go into a nation and topple the government in a few months the USSR had spent 8 years and failed at doing it?
>I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people
>of
>Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
>stability.
World peace and stability is very overrated. That was the excuse to not do anything to Germany for taking Poland. Peace at all costs causes more death then a reluctant war.
>I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
>contracts.
convicted criminals in what respect? Misdemeanors, or felons?
>I set the all-time record for the number of administration appointees who
>violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations
>bidding for gov't contracts.
Valid if true.
>I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any
>other president in US history.
I disagree, because I think in the 50s they did a better job, making it illegal to talk about a philosophical belief (socialism)
>In a little over two years I have created
>the most
>divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has
>been
>since the Civil War.
HA! What happened durring the 60s? race, war, etc. and what about 1914, before we got into the war, the whole nation was fighting over england or germany.
>I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less
>than
>two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
I don't have time to get into this, but suffice it to say, I both agree and disagree with this comment.
>RECORDS AND REFERENCES: I have at least one conviction for drunk driving
>in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).
Valid
>I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during time
>of
>war. I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug
>use.
Valid
>All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to
>my
>fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All
>records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt
>companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
How do you what it says if it's sealed?
>All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on
>the
>board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
Valid, if true.
>Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding
>public
>energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
Executive privilage. Many presidents have done this. The tapes can still be suponeaed, just like they did with Tricky Dick.
>PERSONAL REFERENCES: For personal references, please speak to my dad or
>Uncle James Baker (They can be reached in their offices at the Carlyle
>Group
>where they are helping to divide up the spoils of the US-Iraq war and
>plan for
>the next one).
Sigh.
>(Note: this information should be useful to voters in the 2004 election.
>Circulate to as many citizens you think would be helped to be reminded
>about his record.)
I finally completely agree! It should be useful to voters in the 2004 election, because you can now see the half truths and blatant lies that will be told durring the election!
>Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as
>well dance.
Then let's dance, Renae. Step inside!

>Renae McGregor
>Legacy Boutique
[the mysterous phone numbers...]
>legacyboutique.com

My comments are the ones not preceded with a >. I copied this out of my hotmail. If it's hard to read, post, and I'll edit it to make my comments in bold or something.

Thanks!
The Jungle

[Edited on 12-11-2003 by junglejake]



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 07:05 PM
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(Jotting down Renae's number before the Mods see it)



[Edited on 11-12-2003 by RANT]



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by junglejake
I have a response for this that I emailed a friend who sent it to me. When she forwards the email to me, we'll get the facts out, I don't feel like going through it again, the propoganda of it angered me


Why, thank you. You are very kind.



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by RANT
(Jotting down Renae's number before the Mods see it)



[Edited on 11-12-2003 by RANT]


I take it that means you liked it. And I'm going to have to take that number out of it, then. Didn't realize the number was even there, I just copied all of the email...Dang, there is no smiley for embarassment...so let's try a combo...



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

Originally posted by junglejake
I have a response for this that I emailed a friend who sent it to me. When she forwards the email to me, we'll get the facts out, I don't feel like going through it again, the propoganda of it angered me


Why, thank you. You are very kind.


hehe, read the next post



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 07:48 PM
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without agreeing or disagreeing i did not find the rebuttle very convincing because most points were replied to with a "valid" comment or else they were not refuted with any sort of evidence aside from a sarcastic remark while much of the original email was exagerrated and clearly written by an anti-bush advocate it is somewhat frightening how many comment received a "valid" response



posted on Dec, 11 2003 @ 08:14 PM
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If you take into account all the "valids" and "i don't Knows" or fox news spins like "clintons fault", especially with respect to 9/11, then junglejake, I don't get your point? Are you validating this resume?



posted on Dec, 12 2003 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by thoth
without agreeing or disagreeing i did not find the rebuttle very convincing because most points were replied to with a "valid" comment or else they were not refuted with any sort of evidence aside from a sarcastic remark while much of the original email was exagerrated and clearly written by an anti-bush advocate it is somewhat frightening how many comment received a "valid" response


Yes, many times, but not all. My point of the rebuttle was to point out the fact that many of these are half truths, or blatant lies. Anyone who is educated in the presidancy could do the same with any president in history as Renae did.

My point was, always question the truth one side tells you, and seek the other side for the other side of the story.

[Edited on 12-12-2003 by junglejake]



posted on Dec, 12 2003 @ 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by junglejake
I have a response for this that I emailed a friend who sent it to me. When she forwards the email to me, we'll get the facts out, I don't feel like going through it again, the propoganda of it angered me


What's scary is a lot of it's true and you know it if you really read into it.



posted on Dec, 12 2003 @ 02:32 PM
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You want to know what's worse. Bush know it and dosn't give a rats ass. One way or another he going to try to keep his job. I think he will do whatever it takes. Let's see how 2004 plays out. Hey Thomas are you saying you support Bush? I'd rather have anyone but bush but whoever comes after him has a big mess to clean up. Expect something big to happen in 2004 so that bush can keep his seat.


LAW

posted on Dec, 12 2003 @ 05:25 PM
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without attacking people pesonally on this thread a few of you need to wake up, read a few facts and see through what ever haze your stuck in.
Bush is an evil man and your name a war criminal.

Remember it's all about the oil.

Read on, and before you talk about the American saviours and European cowards, grow up and face facts, you really cant be that stupid and blind to the real world.

www25.brinkster.com/themindreader/pastOil.htm

"ITS THE OIL,

STUPID!

The Russians got into their Vietnam right after we got out of ours?
Isn’t that strange.?
We supported Bin Laden and the Taliban for years, and viewed them as freedom fighters against the Russians?
Isn’t that strange?
As late as 1998 the US was paying the salary of every single Taliban official in Afghanistan?
Isn’t that strange?
There is more oil and gas in the Caspian Sea area than in Saudi Arabia, but you need a pipeline through Afghanistan to get the oil out.
Isn’t that strange?
UNOCAL, a giant American Oil conglomerate, wanted to build a 1000 mile long pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan to the Arabian Sea. UNOCAL spent $10,000,000,000 on geological surveys for pipeline construction, and very nicely courted the Taliban for their support in allowing the construction to begin.
Isn’t that strange?
All of the leading Taliban officials were in Texas negotiating with UNOCAL in 1998.Isn’t that strange?
1998-1999 the Taliban changed its mind and threw UNOCAL out of the country and awarded the pipeline project to a company from Argentina. John Maresca VP of UNOCAL testified before Congress and said no pipeline until the Taliban was gone and a more friendly government was established.
Isn’t that strange?
1999-2000 the Taliban became the most evil people in the world.
Isn’t that strange?
9/11 WTC disaster. Bush goes to war against Afganistan even though none of the hijackers came from Afghanistan.
Isn’t that strange.
Bush blamed Bin Laden but has never offered any proof saying it’s a “secret”.
Isn’t that strange?
Taliban offered to negotiate to turn over Bin Laden if we showed them some proof. We refused; we bombed.
Isn’t that strange?
Bush said: “This is not about nation building. It’s about getting the terrorists”
Isn’t that strange?
We have a new government in Afghanistan. The leader of that government formerly worked for UNOCAL.
Isn’t that strange?
Bush appoints a special envoy to represent the Us to deal with that new government, who was formerly the ‘chief consultant to UNOCAL’.
Isn’t that strange?
The Bush family aquired their wealth through oil?
Isn’t that strange?
Bush’s secretary of Interior was the President of an oil company before going to Washington.
Isn’t that strange?
George Bush Sr. Now works with the ‘Carlysle Group’ specialising in huge oil investments around the world.
Isn’t that strange?
Condoleezza Rice worked for Chevron before going to Washington.
Isn’t that strange?
Chevron named one of its newest ‘supertankers’ after Codoleezza. Isn’t that strange?
Dick Cheney worked for the giant oil conglomerate haliburton before becoming VP. Isn’t that strange?
Haliburton gave Cheney $34,000,000 (?) as a farewell gift when he left Haliburton. Haliburton is in the pipeline construction business.
Isn’t that strange?
There is $6 Trillion dollars worth of oil in the Caspian Sea area. Isn’t that strange?
The US government quietly announces Jan 31, 2002 we will support the construction of the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline.
Isn’t that strange?
President Musharref (Pakistan), and Karrzai, (Afghanistan-UNOCAL) announce agreement to build proposed gas pipeline from Central Asia to Pakistan via Afghanistan. (Irish Times 02/10/02)
Isn’t that strange?
Mr Joseph Clifford contributed above article to Media Monitors Network from James Town, Rhode Island, USA.




www.btinternet.com...

Kissinger, Unocal, Enron and Cheney


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"In November 2001, the Washington Post examined the history of the Unocal pipeline in a story headlined 'How Afghanistan Went Unlisted as Terrorist Sponsor.' That story also mentioned Kissinger's role: 'Unocal appealed to the Taliban and received assurances that it would support a $4.5 billion project rivaling the trans-Alaska pipeline. The deal promised to be a boon for the Taliban, which could realize $100 million a year in transit fees.' But Unocal also needed U.S. backing. To secure critical financing from agencies such as the World Bank, it needed the State Department to formally recognize the Taliban as Afghanistan's government. 'Unocal hired former State Department insiders: former secretary of state Henry A. Kissinger, former special U.S. ambassador John J. Maresca and Robert Oakley, a former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan.' Zalmay Khalilzad, an Afghan-born former Reagan State Department adviser on Afghanistan, entered the picture as a consultant for a Boston group hired by Unocal. Khalilzad and Oakley had dual roles during this period because the State Department also sought their advice. Khalilzad is now one of President Bush's top advisers on Afghanistan.' Which makes me wonder whether Kissinger should be asking questions -- or answering them."
Oh, Henry
Salon.com, 3 Dec 2002

"And an FBI source told The Enquirer: 'Enron and Unocal dumped hundreds of millions of dollars into Afghanistan and the Taliban. The pipeline would relieve our dependence on Saudi Arabia -- and Enron would make billions."
Enron gave Taliban $millions
National Enquirer, 4 March 2002

"A captured Al Qaida document reveals that US energy companies were secretly negotiating with the Taliban to build a pipeline. The document was obtained by the FBI but was not allowed to be shared with other agencies in order to protect Enron. Multiple sources confirm that American law enforcement agencies were deliberately kept in the dark and systematically prevented from connecting the dots before 9/11 in order to aid Enron’s secret and immoral Taliban negotiations.... in January 2001, Vice President Cheney allegedly reinstated the intelligence block and expanded it to effectively preclude any investigations whatsoever of Saudi-Taliban-Afghan oil connections. Former FBI counter-terrorism chief John O’Neil resigned from the FBI in disgust, stating that he was ordered not to investigate Saudi-Al Qaida connections because of the Enron pipeline deal. [Former Federal Prosecutor John Loftus] has confirmed that it was O’Neil who originally discovered the AL Qaida pipeline memo after the Embassy bombings in Africa."
What Congress Does Not Know about Enron and 9/11
John Loftus, Press Release, 31 May 2002

Kissinger Should Be Giving, Not Taking, Evidence At The 911 Inquiry
Kissinger, The Caspian Sea and Afghanistan

Some Questions About 911 That Should Be Put Directly To Kissinger Himself - click here

"Armitage's Caspian knowledge is not second hand. In addition to his work for his own consultancy Armitage became a founding Director of the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce in 1996 along with a formidable phalanx of captains from the oil industry including Unocal President John Imle. At the time the Chamber extended 'deep appreciation to the following companies which have contributed to its establishment: Amoco, BP America, Chevron, Exxon, Mobil, Occidental, Panalpina, and Unocal.' Not too many internet start up companies there. Other interesting characters who have held positions with this innocuous-sounding oil industry funded organisation include: James Baker, Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, John Sununu, and Richard Perle ."
What Did Britain Know About 911?
Fight Smart, 28 Aug 2002

"The Caspian area is there to be exploited. Oil, natural gas. One pipeline was planned through the southern Balkans, the split-apart area formerly called simply Yugoslavia. Standing in the way was a strongman, Slobadan Milosevic, who took over more or less with the demise of long-time dictator Marshal Tito who with an iron fist kept the ethnic and religious groups in check. Milosevic was once considered charming and popular. Toppling him started with the Henry Kissinger design of wrecking the Yugoslav banks. Kissinger & Associates have been a nest of clever snakes fronting for Big Oil and dictators and butchers worldwide. So, building on the natural friction between ethnic and religious groups in Yugoslavia, became the excuse for the U.S./British attack on the Belgrade government... If not so bloody and tragic, the whole event would be laughable... Who would rightfully dare prosecute the U.S./British leaders as war criminals? The International tribunals, made up of yesmen and cowards, are a dead letter. "
THE PIPELINE PLOTS, PART ONE
Sholnick's Report, 1/9/2002

US secretly armed Bosnian muslims to fight Serbs - BBC report
US gave green light to Hezbollah terrorists in Yugoslavia - Dutch Government report

"War against terrorism? Not really. Reminder: it's all about oil. A quick look at the map is all it takes. It's no coincidence that the map of terror in the Middle East and Central Asia is practically interchangeable with the map of oil. There's Infinite Justice, Enduring Freedom - and Everlasting Profits to be made: not only by the American industrial-military complex, but especially by American and European oil giants. Where is the realm these days of former US secretary of state James Baker, former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft, former White House chief of staff John Sununu and former defense secretary and current Invisible Man Dick Cheney? They are all happily dreaming of, and working for, the establishment of Pipelineistan.... If the US controls the sources of energy of its rivals - Europe, Japan, China and other nations aspiring to be more independent - they win. This explains why pipelines from the Caucasus to the West have to be America-friendly - ie Turkish or Macedonian - and not 'nreliable', meaning Russian-controled. Washington, always, has to control everything: that's what Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger always said. The same goes for the military bases in Saudi Arabia, and now in Pakistan and Afghanistan. There's no business like war business. Thanks to war against Iraq, the US has its military bases in the Persian Gulf. Thanks to war against Yugoslavia, the US has its military bases in Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia. Thanks to war against the Taliban, the US is now in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Not to mention the base in Incirlik, Turkey. The US is also in the Caucasus - in Georgia and Azerbaijan. Iran, China and Russia are practically encircled. There's no business like show business. Raise the curtains. Enter Pipelineistan."
Pipelineistan, Parts 1 and 2
Asia Times, 26 January 2002

"The sudden availability of 2.8 trillion cubic feet per year of gas previously committed to the Russian pipeline system propelled [President] Niyazov [of Turkmenistan] from an obscure Central Asian strongman to a central figure in an intricate geopolitical drama that has drawn in Washington, Tehran, Moscow and assorted regional capitals. While the prize in the Caspian is an energy patch whose size is believed by many to exceed those in Alaska and the North Sea, the overarching issue is how to get the commodity out of landlocked Central Asia. The politics of pipelines seems as tangled as the routes themselves, and each route carried its own treacherous obstacles. But a simple ambition had come to unify American policy in the region: Tap the Caspian mother lodes while giving as little leverage as possible to Russia in the north and Iran in the south..... To State Department strategists, the perfect pipeline out of Dauletabad lay in a different direction: from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to Pakistan, connecting the gas resources of Central Asia to the surging economies of South Asia. Such a line would deprive Iran of transit fees for Turkmen gas crossing its territory while capturing the South Asian gas market coveted by Iran.... A Unocal link had strong appeal for Niyazov. Afghanistan was in turmoil. A big American oil company could draw on the political muscle of the United States to promote Turkmenistan's energy interests. In October 1995, both Bulgheroni and Imle [of Unocal] followed Niyazov to New York for the opening of the U.N. General Assembly. Each expected to be chosen to build the Afghan pipeline, according to sources close to the two men. On Oct. 21, the nod went to the Americans as Niyazov announced the selection of Unocal. Looking on at the announcement ceremony was former secretary of state Henry A. Kissinger, now a Unocal consultant... The defeat of the Kabul government by Taliban fundamentalist guerrillas in late 1996 brought Unocal new hope of cutting a deal in Afghanistan...... "
Gas Pipeline Bounces Between Agendas
Washington Post, 10 Ocotober 1998

"Evidently Kissinger's long-standing connections with oil firms doing business in the Gulf region are of no concern, either [following his appointment to Chair the 911 inquiry]. Two petroleum companies were mentioned in the Times the other day, but nobody dared ask the man whether he still works for them or any other oil-related businesses. What about Unocal? In 1995, Kissinger showed up for the signing ceremony in New York that sealed Unocal's agreement to build a $2 billion, 1,000-mile pipeline from the gas fields of Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan. The torturous negotiations leading to that aborted deal -- including Kissinger's cameo -- are fully described in Chapter 12 of 'Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil & Fundamentalism in Central Asia," by Ahmed Rashid, an authoritative journalist who now works for the Wall Street Journal. Unocal eventually withdrew from Turkmenistan, amid charges of bribery and influence-peddling. (Working for the rival bidder at the time was Saudi prince Turki al-Faisal, director of the kingdom's intelligence agency.) What makes that old story interesting again is the role of Unocal's partner, described in the Los Angeles Times in May 1998 as 'a small and mysterious Saudi company called Delta Oil Co. Ltd.' At the time, Unocal and Delta were cultivating the friendly leaders of the Taliban to win approval for their pipeline... In November 2001, the Washington Post examined the history of the Unocal pipeline in a story headlined 'How Afghanistan Went Unlisted as Terrorist Sponsor.' That story also mentioned Kissinger's role: 'Unocal appealed to the Taliban and received assurances that it would support a $4.5 billion project rivaling the trans-Alaska pipeline. The deal promised to be a boon for the Taliban, which could realize $100 million a year in transit fees.' But Unocal also needed U.S. backing. To secure critical financing from agencies such as the World Bank, it needed the State Department to formally recognize the Taliban as Afghanistan's government. 'Unocal hired former State Department insiders: former secretary of state Henry A. Kissinger, former special U.S. ambassador John J. Maresca and Robert Oakley, a former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan.' Zalmay Khalilzad, an Afghan-born former Reagan State Department adviser on Afghanistan, entered the picture as a consultant for a Boston group hired by Unocal. Khalilzad and Oakley had dual roles during this period because the State Department also sought their advice. Khalilzad is now one of President Bush's top advisers on Afghanistan.' Which makes me wonder whether Kissinger should be asking questions -- or answering them."
Oh, Henry
Salon.com, 3 Dec 2002

"Kissinger is today a member of the Pentagon's DefensePolicy Board, appointed at the invitation of its chairman, Richard Perle. Perle is one of the notorious members of Washington's 'Wolfowitz cabal' which is leading the pack for turning the 'war against terrorism' into World War III...."
Kissinger And Other Taliban Apologists Now Lead Drive For War Against Islam
Executive Intelligence Review, 13 Nov 2001



posted on Dec, 12 2003 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
As far as what the European "America will serve us and not herself" countries think, who cares? The Europe today is a picture of socialistic spinelessness that figures we should do their bidding and take whatever abuse we take along the way, just as long as we do not interfere with their making money off of the people that hate us. Who cares what they think, huh? Not me.


Does that include us brits thomas?



posted on Dec, 13 2003 @ 02:41 AM
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Has it ever included you Brits?
Our countries have always stood shoulder to shoulder, and have always had each other's backs. I've trained with British soldiers, and I always liked the idea that I was one the same side as those guys. Solid troops.
I think you knew the answer before you asked. I think it'll be that way to the end, as I feel confident that you guys are the Biblical "Lion" and we are one of the "cubs".
But then again, I also bought 50 pounds of rice in 1999, if you know what I mean, so I'm not one to be followed!



posted on Dec, 13 2003 @ 02:44 AM
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DaTruth, I am not saying I am a Bush fan, as a matter of fact, I am admitting that I was duped by all the conservative noise he made.
I will say that the democrats are fielding nobody that is as good as, much less better than Shrub. And that is sad.
No matter who wins, we lose.

Alan Keyes for president!!!!



posted on Dec, 13 2003 @ 02:51 AM
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You must REALLY like rice.



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