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My homeschooled daughter lacks socialization...or so they rant...

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posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:03 PM
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Greetings,

The silly season is upon us all, a time for joy, giving and love. A time to be shared with family and friends. For me however, its a time for combat of the interpersonal nature. My wifes family just loves our public school system here in America and cannot understand why I chose to home school my daughter. Their favorite collective argument can be summed up in one sentence, she will not be properly socialized at home, she needs to be in a public school.

Drugs, sexual promiscuity, foul language, vile rap and rock music, undisciplined children, impotent teachers, chaotic learning environments, bullies, God free zones, and extreme violence.

You know, come to think of it, they are right, my daughter does indeed lack all of these social influences. Ill go enroll her today!


Machine

[Edited on 2-12-2003 by Machine]



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:09 PM
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hi there mac......
quote/You know, come to think of it, they are right, my daughter does indeed lack all of these social influences. Ill go enroll her today!
LOL......

You know what? Your doing the right thing!
Im sure she will appreciate the fact that she will see things alot different when she is older......as for now(not sure how old she is now)being at home will do her alot of good......as long as a parent you are bringing her up with good morals and nice friends

Any way, all the best........
helen...



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:11 PM
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Yeah well think of that as a good thing, as you already do. She will posess the greatest lack of the younger generation today.......Respect. Besides that she will learn alot more at home at her own pace. I do have a friend whos daughter had to take 1 more year in order to graduate. They said she wasnt at the academic level of what they would consider a graduate. BS if i ever heard it. Anyways she took a placement test and aced it without a problem but that still wasnt proof enough. They decided that 1 year of half 11th and half 12th studies would be sufficiant enough for her to graduate under the states terms. So she wasted that whole year when she could have spent it in college. I say at home is the right way, true you miss a little on a social level but you by far make up for it with other qualities. By the way........I went to public schools



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:12 PM
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hmmmm... well that's interesting. so basically your saying that your daughter should be sheltered? i mean my mother didnt want me to go to public school, and i did and i was fine. shes going to find the horrible truth about hummanity whether you like it or not. its kinda like just because you wash your hands dosent mean youve gotten rid of all the germs. if anything what dosent kill you makes you stronger (hehe i hate corny sayings one of those pet peeves). eh its your daughter and im notarguing just trying to understand.
oh and by the way impotent teachers? i dont know if i would wana see my teachers when they werent impotent walking around my daughter.



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:16 PM
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I hope to be able to homeschool my son when the time comes, there are plenty of other ways to get social skills...they learn by example. If the parents are open and interactive the children will be as well. The only down side to homeschooling is the lack of playtime with other children their own age...but that can be remedied without public schooling....just make sure there's time to be a kid, and everything will be fine...



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:16 PM
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At home usually has 1-2 teachers only. I dont see how one would consider it sheltering your child. With the way the children are now and the problems they have in school how could you think that it was or is a bad thing. Its not like they are locked in a room and have no friends. It gives them a chance to learn on a different level thats all



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:19 PM
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Keep at it machine


Your daughter is being socialised to interact with adults at a mature level, resist peer pressure, develop her own opinions, and think independently.

I have NEVER seen a homeschooled kid who came out worse than a public schooled kid.

If you can do it well, its an ideal educational opportunity.



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:19 PM
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My brother and his wife, are home schooling 2 kids.

I do not agree with it. I kind of think that my brother also isn't really in favor of it, but just goes along with what 'she' wants.

I think that a kid needs to learn to interact with others socially.

I know there are bad things out there and that kids are unpredictable, but I say it all starts at home.

Talk to your kids, explain the dangers, instill good values and do not be affraid to discipline them when needed. They'll listen.

You can't shield them from the world forever !



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Machine


Drugs, sexual promiscuity, foul language, vile rap and rock music, undisciplined children, impotent teachers, chaotic learning environments, bullies, God free zones, and extreme violence.

You know, come to think of it, they are right, my daughter does indeed lack all of these social influences. Ill go enroll her today!


Machine

[Edited on 2-12-2003 by Machine]


I understand where you are coming from. It is scary sending your children off to public school. But all of the problems you have listed will still be there when she is out of scool. Hopefully she will not be overwhelmed by life when she is done in school, and has to deal with problems. And public school is not has bad as you make it sound. Most of the teachers do care about the children they are teaching. Ours is in contact with us,if there is a need. And the vast majoriety of children are great kids. I would not want to take that away from my children.



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:40 PM
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My daughter is two years old and full of life and joy. As for the social aspects she enjoys daily trips to the park and interacts well with children of all ages. I have, however, begun to notice certain disturbing behavior patterns while observing her communicate with both parental units and younglings alike. She seems to have some deep seated desire to utter forth strange and alien phrases like:

May I play with you? Would you like some of my candy? Youre kind, do you want to be my friend? And the ancient, yes sir and yes maam.

Im not sure where she learned these words and phrases as Ive not heard any children utter them in my presence for some time but rest assured public school vanguards, Ill get to the bottom of this!


Machine



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:42 PM
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damn machine..... quick,

get your child indoors now.. and never ever let them out again......


Manners... I haven't heard those in years, especially from a child...



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:55 PM
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I pushed my daughter out into traffic today. She didnt want to go but I made her with one big shove. She cried for me to save her but I wanted her to see the world for what it is. I know some of you might argue that shoving a two year old into traffic is unkind to kids and cars but I wanted her to experience the hardships of life firsthand to better develop her young coping skills. I must admit that although I wanted her to escape this life lesson under her own power I did have to jump in and pull her out. I guess Ill have to wait until she is grown before I next push her out into traffic. Maybe with a grown set of legs and a mind more fully developed she will have the edge she needs to shuck and jive her way across the street to safety.


Machine



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 03:59 PM
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You know...my son is 12 years old, and is polite,and sensitive to other peoples feelings. Not only did he learn this at home,he also learned it in school. They do have standards in school you know. And if you step out of line you get in trouble.

Now my cousin who was home schooled is/was a wreck. Cannot relate to other people at all. Got very addicted to drugs,and is still afraid to go to collage. He is in his early 20's.

Home schooling is not a bad thing.....but it is not the perfect solution either. And bad things can happen to children that are home schooled...its called life. And children need to become adults that can handle it.


Jay

posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 04:12 PM
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You all make public school out to be such a bad thing, yes there are problems in the system and with some of the younger generations. But private schools have the same problems, that public schools do. I speak from experience i went to both through out my school years. Like some people say here it all starts at home, all you have to do is talk and listen to your kids and they will be fine. I'm actually tired of hearing how kids today are growing up with no respect, why should they give us respect when all we do is talk down to them.

Also think about when most of you were growing up, and take a lesson from that. Didn't you rebel against what your parents were telling you to do? I do belive in home schooling kids, for people that want to and have the time and money. Don't get me wrong MAchine, I have alot of respect for someone willing to take the time to raise their child right. Its just i'm tired of hearing all the stuff about how my generation and the ones after mine grew up with no respect. Or better yet how we get influenced by TV, Music, Movies, and Video Games.

If more parents like you took the time to talk to there kids, on an adult level i think we would lose alot of the problems we have today. Also i think that as parents we should speak out more on the learning conditions of our schools, and go to the people who have the power to change the system and demand change. Everyone has the power to help just very few people take advantage of it. Sorry i went on so long, but its something i feel very strongly about.



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 04:18 PM
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I do wonder how much socialization the kids get when they are homeschooled. This is an important time where kids learn to interact.

But I think that homeschooling can offer a good education to the kids if the parents are dedicated. However, I don't think that most parents are qualified to educate ther kids. After all, the average American reads at about a sixth grade level.

I think that before a child is allowed to be homeschooled the parent should have to take a test to see if they have the necessary knowledge and skills to homeschool their child.



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 04:18 PM
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have you begun home schooling yet or are you still decideing....i'm cunfused cuz you said she was 2.



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 05:11 PM
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Let me tell you this. She is not socially lacking. SHe may think she is, but she is not. As long as she feels compfortable, keep her in. Just make sure she has freinds. Plus school sucks.........most of it is rotting away and doing busy work so politicians can brag about the education system.

look at the big picture..........always

this goes for everything: see who is benefiting the most, and that should give you some hints



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 05:25 PM
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Although you're home schooling her, which isn't a bad thing, it's important that you indroduce her to new friends and people once a while. Otherwise, she'll grow up unable to communicate effecttively, like me. I go to a public school, and even after all these years, I'm still a loner.



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Saucerat
Although you're home schooling her, which isn't a bad thing, it's important that you indroduce her to new friends and people once a while. Otherwise, she'll grow up unable to communicate effecttively, like me. I go to a public school, and even after all these years, I'm still a loner.
it's your intelligence that scares them away!!!!!



posted on Dec, 2 2003 @ 05:44 PM
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I began educating my two year old from an early age. From a learning standpoint she is ahead of other children two and three times her age. She knows her alphabet, can count to one hundred, knows her colors and reads simple books. So far she has shown a tremendous love for learning and speaks in full and complete sentences. This is a direct result of our collective home schooling efforts. It saddens me to watch other kids two and three times her age who cannot read, do not know their alphabet or their colors. All of these kids have spent countless hours in day care and the public school system and what has it taught them?

As for those who may disagree please let me know if you are also parents. I dont place much credit on those who do not have children of their own trying to pretend parent.

For now, my daughter receives her socialization by meeting other people at the parks, museums, and other activities we do. We spend a huge amount of time outdoors observing nature and discussing the simple things in life. When she turns three I plan to enroll her in a Japanese swordsmanship class where she will learn basic tumbling and formal discipline. After this we will add music and soccer.

Its a common fallacy that home schooled children are not socialized but the truth is they have many activities and clubs that they participate in which more than meets this need. As for my ability to teach my daughter I have access to a wealth of virtually endless source material to work from, its called the Internet.

For any of you interested in home schooling check out the k12 program it has some nice material.

www.k12.com


Machine




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