No-Fly List a Farce so Far, According to Former FBI Agent, page 1

posted on Oct, 8 2006 @ 05:32 PM

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The No-Fly list was supposed to protect air travelers from dangerous terrorists. Unfortunately for those travelers, the list is more likely to contain the names of thousands upon thousands of innocent people than it is to contain the names of known terrorists. Former FBI agent Jack Cloonan knew from the start, when he heard the sorts of names going on the list, that the endeavor would be a nightmare. While the list failed to include known terrorists at large, it did manage to pick up Saddam Hussein and the President of Bolivia, along with many very common names like Gary Smith, John Williams and Robert Johnson.

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60 Minutes, in collaboration with the National Security News Service, has obtained the secret list used to screen airline passengers for terrorists and discovered it includes names of people not likely to cause terror, including the president of Bolivia, people who are dead and names so common, they are shared by thousands of innocent fliers.

The name of David Belfield who now goes by Dawud Sallahuddin, is not on the list, even though he assassinated someone in Washington, D.C., for former Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini. This is because the accuracy of the list meant to uphold security takes a back seat to overarching security needs: it could get into the wrong hands. "The government doesn't want that information outside the government," says Cathy Berrick, Director of Homeland Security and Justice Issues for the General Accounting Office.

"Well, Robert Johnson will never get off the list," says Donna Bucella, who oversaw the creation of the list and has headed up the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center since 2003. She regrets the trouble they experience, but chalks it up to the price of security in the post-9/11 world. "They're going to be inconvenienced every time … because they do have the name of a person who's a known or suspected terrorist," says Bucella.

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Well, no surprise here. Many of us have been saying just this since this silly plan went into effect. Nevermind the fact that any terrorist worth their salt is likely to travel under an assumed name, using forged documents - or maybe that's not the point. Maybe the point isn't to catch terrorists and protect citizens, but rather to terrify citizens.

In any case, the list is a costly, ineffective, poorly-conceived endeavor, and like most of the programs put into place since 9/11, does very little to actually protect anyone.

It would make too much sense, I guess, to protect our water supply, our food supply, and our electrical grid.

DYepes

posted on Oct, 8 2006 @ 09:37 PM

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Does being on this list mean that one cannot fly AT ALL? Or does it simply mean that one is further inconvinienced by additional and harsh security checks? Or does it mean that oerson is instantly detained and questioned in an undisclosed location in the airport?

rich23

posted on Oct, 9 2006 @ 08:12 AM

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I started a thread on this hoping to get additional information from people with the names affected or who knew people with those name.

You can find it here.

So far response has not been overwhelming.

xpert11

posted on Oct, 9 2006 @ 11:13 AM

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Protecting the likes of Americas water supply would require geniune security measures rather then fear mongering. If anyone still thinks the world is an safer place after 9-11 they need to check out the thread below there are plently of cases like it.
$20 fake ID gets you into Homeland Security.