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Originally posted by selfless
Originally posted by jimboman
No one will ever know the real truth about 9-11 because some people come out with way-out theories that cause damage to others who are looking for the truth.
From reading ATS I now believe the US goverment knew about 9-11 before it happened. To the general public however, who lump all CTs together, these theories about nukes in the towers and holographic planes make all the truth-seekers seem like whackos and it damages the debate. It's only helping the goverment cover-up the truth.
it's only one theory out of infinite possibilities, does not make the people ''wackos''
who's to say that sticking with one story only is not what will make the goverment get away with it? your reason is highly subjective
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
Originally posted by selfless
because he called him stupid in the wtc thread.
WHERE? Post a link to this.
You are a LIAR. PERIOD.
Sorry to burst your bubble over your hero.
Originally posted by jimboman
Because the truth is going to get lost in all the theories, that's why. Somebody will say 'I have proof that GWB knew about 9-11' but becasue others have already posted 'I have the smoking gun' no-one will listen. Ever heard the story about the boy who cried wolf?
Originally posted by johnlear
My opinion is that this technology was perfected about 15 years ago.
Originally posted by simon_alex0327
Enough already!
Have a look at this link... a video interview with John Lear, where he mentions several times his postings on ATS.
Link
I wonder why I don't post much on here... when the ridicule etc. is something else to behold!
Originally posted by johnlear
My opinion is that this technology was perfected about 15 years ago.
It is just his opinion.. where would we be without other views to question/debate.
I am appalled at his treatment, not just for who he is... but the treatment of any individual like this!
Can we not just agree to disagree... or should we visit every thread and make a mockery of this site?
Enough!
Originally posted by selfless
well there is a difference between claiming you are right 100% and saying that what you think about the subject is completely your own opinion and do not force your ideals on others.
How can sticking with one story only be a better way to find the truth? here is the concept of bias... which is caused by not keeping an open mind.
Originally posted by jimboman
If you go back and read my edited post you will see I wasn't talking about ATSers not listening to theories, I was talking about people who've never heard of ATS. Mention the US government was involved in 9-11 to most of my friends and they just might be interested. Start talking about nukes and holograms and they'll think you've been watching too much X-Files. That's the problem I have with these theories and opinions. It muddies the waters with the people we need to bring onboard.
Edited for spelling.
[edit on 4/10/06 by jimboman]
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
I am serious man. The guy says the WTC planes were holograms... I want to know how we can tell if he is a hologram.
It is my opinion that John Lear is a hologram... sounds pretty freaking stupid.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
I am serious man. The guy says the WTC planes were holograms... I want to know how we can tell if he is a hologram.
It is my opinion that John Lear is a hologram... sounds pretty freaking stupid.
You apparently have never read the Holographic Universe. Everything is just a hologram.
Originally posted by selfless
you mean to tell me that you were not making fun of john in your post when you posted your sarcastic remark?
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Huh,I wasn't the one who made the remark. "Slap Nuts" did.
[edit on 4-10-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]
Originally posted by selfless
yes ok but read what i said about the goverment, it encourages redicule to the outmost extreme so how is rediculing a community that are open minded enough not to be controled and fooled by the goverment tone it down just so that the people not capable of such thinking is not turned away by us going to help anything?
Originally posted by observe50
Words, the 21st. century down fall.
It seems that in this day and age everyone needs to watch every word they speak or write. Words, what one person takes to have one meaning another person will take to have another meaning.
It seems that nowadays people are looking for anything spelling, incorrect punctuations, something that one said decades ago to put them down in some way.
For myself Mr. Lear never claimed he had the answers all I have noticed is he has taken his time to share with us information. He never asked you to believe a word he said.
I do think that Mr. Lear has a great dry sense of humor at times and it tells ME that's he no different then you or I.
Many, many people know the name John Lear weather his father or himself. I really don't think there are to many people out there with a well known name as this that would put himself into this subject when the stakes are high and that his name could be harmed and his family embarrassed.
I would really hate to see John Lear leave ATS. If you have a problem with him don't go to the threads you know he is on.
Originally posted by observe50
I would really hate to see John Lear leave ATS. If you have a problem with him don't go to the threads you know he is on.
Originally posted by thesneakiod
I actually started a thread on john lear to see if people believed that what he was
saying was true, or he is just making it all up. It ran for a few pages and we still
dont know the answer, and we probably never will find out if he has a hidden agenda
or he's just relaying what mr x was meant to have told him.
And there lies the problem. Whether he really is john lear or not to me its irrelevent,
its the fantastic claims he makes with no proof to back it up. That should be the real
issue here.
If anybody else came to this site giving us this outlandish info with no way to prove it
which he fully well knows he cant, they would have bombed out within a week of
them being here.
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
Originally posted by selfless
because he called him stupid in the wtc thread.
You are a LIAR. PERIOD.
Sorry to burst your bubble over your hero.