A request for John Lear.

IT has come to my attention that a lot of people are complaining saying that John Lear is a fake, i personaly do not think so... i don't see why someone would do that.


Please John can you please post a picture of your self holding a peice of paper that says

''Hello ats i am the real John Lear''. I agree this is childish but it appears that it would be the only way to get the childish claims that you are not the real John Lear to a stop.

I ask this of you for the sake of peace with in our selves, i am sure most of us on ats wants to be peacefull and not bicker on each others, i feel this would fix this problem and im sure you are tired of people asking you for proof john, this would fix the problem.



Ps: if mods feels this is not the proper category to post this thread in im sorry, it seems like the right place to me but i could be wrong.



edited for content

[edit on 4-10-2006 by selfless]

Not everyone here think he is an imposter...

He may very well be the "Real guy"... that does not make him correct about ANYTHING though.

So, go ahead, post your photo... BUT HOW WILL WE KNOW IT IS NOT A HOLOGRAM?

His identity has been proven several times by the highest order of ATS. You should do a search for threads with John and you will see this proof first hand.

With all the investigative members on this site that dig into things until they are picked clean do you really think he would not have been exposed by now?

Originally posted by Slap Nuts
Not everyone here think he is an imposter...

He may very well be the "Real guy"... that does not make him correct about ANYTHING though.

So, go ahead, post your photo... BUT HOW WILL WE KNOW IT IS NOT A HOLOGRAM?

see you are continiuing to redicule him because he stated his opinion, how is that not a childish thing to do? we are not in the second grade anymore.



i know not everyone thinks he's fake but some do and maybe it would bring a little bit more peace to this place, we can't do much about peace on the planet outside our own selves but we sure can acheive more peace on a forum like ats....

Originally posted by jbondo
His identity has been proven several times by the highest order of ATS. You should do a search for threads with John and you will see this proof first hand.

With all the investigative members on this site that dig into things until they are picked clean do you really think he would not have been exposed by now?

no, if you read all of brainsuckers thread you will see that there are some people accusing him of not being the real john lear.

Originally posted by selfless
see you are continiuing to redicule him because he stated his opinion...

...as fact.

When will you figure this out.

I am not ridiculing anyone.

Originally posted by Slap Nuts

Originally posted by selfless
see you are continiuing to redicule him because he stated his opinion...

...as fact.

When will you figure this out.

I am not ridiculing anyone.

read what he said before, all his claims are his opinions. If he claims that what he observed is a fact in his mind from his observations it's still an opinion.

this is getting boring
you can tell him to shows his birth certificate and put it up here and people are still not going to believe
i believe its really John Lear and thats all that matters if you dont well good for you
and if its not the real John Lear
so what!
im not going to lose sleep over it

Originally posted by Slap Nuts


I am not ridiculing anyone.

Originally posted by Slap Nuts


So, go ahead, post your photo... BUT HOW WILL WE KNOW IT IS NOT A HOLOGRAM?

Originally posted by CYRAX
this is getting boring
you can tell him to shows his birth certificate and put it up here and people are still not going to believe
i believe its really John Lear and thats all that matters if you dont well good for you
and if its not the real John Lear
so what!
im not going to lose sleep over it

i am simply trying to bring closure and peace of the matter at hand, i think it's a constructive thing to do and no i won't lose sleep over this either, just trying to help.

I am serious man. The guy says the WTC planes were holograms... I want to know how we can tell if he is a hologram.

It is my opinion that John Lear is a hologram... sounds pretty freaking stupid.

Originally posted by Slap Nuts
I am serious man. The guy says the WTC planes were holograms... I want to know how we can tell if he is a hologram.

It is my opinion that John Lear is a hologram... sounds pretty freaking stupid.

you don't accept his theory as a possibility that's fine really that's up to you but what gives you the right to call him stupid just because he writes what he thinks? you can think his theory is not a possibility but please don't insult anyone over a theory.

truth is, no one knows what really happened and if we keep a close mind about the subject no one will ever know.

Originally posted by Slap Nuts
It is my opinion that John Lear is a hologram... sounds pretty freaking stupid.

You should have bolded the words my opinion !
Anyways...you used his line of arguing. So, if it is OK that John Lear posts his opinions, that this also should be OK. And you didn't called him stupid. You called your opinion stupid. That's not the same thing (this is for selfless).
So...if it is only Slap Nuts' opinion...why are you attacking him? After all...this just what JL does...posting his opinions.

Originally posted by Apass

Originally posted by Slap Nuts
It is my opinion that John Lear is a hologram... sounds pretty freaking stupid.

You should have bolded the words my opinion

!
Anyways...you used his line of arguing. So, if it is OK that John Lear posts his opinions, that this also should be OK. And you didn't called him stupid. You called your opinion stupid. That's not the same thing (this is for selfless).
So...if it is only Slap Nuts' opinion...why are you attacking him? After all...this just what JL does...posting his opinions.

because he called him stupid in the wtc thread.

No one will ever know the real truth about 9-11 because some people come out with way-out theories that cause damage to others who are looking for the truth.

From reading ATS I now believe the US goverment knew about 9-11 before it happened. To the general public however, who lump all CTs together, these theories about nukes in the towers and holographic planes make all the truth-seekers seem like whackos and it damages the debate. It's only helping the goverment cover-up the truth.

Mr. Lear does not have to hold up a stupid sign , he has been verified as the real John Lear by MANY mods. Anyone who questions his I.D. is either stupid, or to lazy to perform an ATS search....

[edit on 4-10-2006 by Tiloke]

and it's ptrety obvious when someone insults someone else even if he make it seem like it's not.


this is called insulting sarcasm, it decrades the other person and is a form of redicule and insult.

Originally posted by selfless
because he called him stupid in the wtc thread.

WHERE? Post a link to this.

You are a LIAR. PERIOD.

Sorry to burst your bubble over your hero.

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[edit on 5-10-2006 by masqua]

Originally posted by jimboman
No one will ever know the real truth about 9-11 because some people come out with way-out theories that cause damage to others who are looking for the truth.

From reading ATS I now believe the US goverment knew about 9-11 before it happened. To the general public however, who lump all CTs together, these theories about nukes in the towers and holographic planes make all the truth-seekers seem like whackos and it damages the debate. It's only helping the goverment cover-up the truth.

it's only one theory out of infinite possibilities, does not make the people ''wackos''

who's to say that sticking with one story only is not what will make the goverment get away with it? your reason is highly subjective

Originally posted by Tiloke
Mr. Lear does not have to hold up a stupid sign , he has been verified as the real John Lear by MANY mods. Anyone who questions his I.D. is either stupid, or to lazy to perform an ATS search....

[edit on 4-10-2006 by Tiloke]

while i agree with you there are still some people that requires sproof of john lear.