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29) And Levi made him a great feast in his house; and there was a large company of tax collectors and others sitting at table with them. 30) And the Pharisees and their scribes murmured against his disciples, saying, "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?" 31) And Jesus answered them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick; 32) I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." 33) And they said to him, "The disciples of John fast often and offer prayers, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours eat and drink." 34) And Jesus said to them, "Can you make wedding guests fast while the bridegroom is with them? 35) The days will come, when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast in those days." 36) He told them a parable also: "No one tears a piece from a new garment and puts it upon an old garment; if he does, he will tear the new, and the piece from the new will not match the old. 37) And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; if he does, the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled, and the skins will be destroyed. 38) But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins. 39) And no one after drinking old wine desires new; for he says, `The old is good.'"
They say: "None shall enter paradise except the one who is a Jew or a Christian."
These are their vain desires. Say O Muhammad: "Let us have your proof if you are
right in your claim."[111] Yea! Whoever submits himself entirely to Allah and is good
to others will be rewarded by his Lord; and will have nothing to fear or to regret.[112]
2:[111-112]
Many among the people of the Book (Jews and Christians) wish they could somehow
turn you back to unbelief, due to their selfish envy, after the truth has become quite
clear to them. Forgive them and bear with them until Allah brings about His decision;
rest assured that Allah has power over everything.[109] 2:[109]
Give generously for the cause of Allah and do not cast yourselves into destruction by
your own hands. Be charitable: Allah loves those who are charitable.[195] 2:[195]
Originally posted by TheUntoldStory
How many different versions of the bible are there? stories are altered to send messages/morals through its words. But you cant call any religion wrong if you really don't know. Mohammed was a prophet of peace, he used violence against enemies and infidels alike but what religin didnt? YES jesus was a prophet of peace but do you know his whole life story? of course not, and there were many "heroes" in the bible whp were violent and murdered people "in the name of god" yeah i should have quotes from the bible backin up mah statement but sorry.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
I have no sympathy for a religion, such as Islam, that has spread its doctrine by the sword. None.
[edit on 3-10-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]
Originally posted by theTRUTHtheWAY
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
I have no sympathy for a religion, such as Islam, that has spread its doctrine by the sword. None.
[edit on 3-10-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]
So you are saying that the crusaders didnt spread their religion by the sword. Unlike islam christianity and its recruiters have traveled to all continents in search of new recruits in order to force their religion onto them.
Originally posted by puneetsg
A wise man said once that religion can never be succesfull as enlightenment cannot be explained. The enlightened individuals are at such a different level from the comman men that there exists a 'communication gap' between them. No matter what they say, their words will always be misinterpreted and their teachings misrepresented. To truly know what the enlightened one is saying, you have to enlightened yourself.
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
That statement itself seems to not understand the nature of 'the Christ' which is Love, the acceptance of all things..
When I find it was quite clear in Jesus' words... LOVE thy neighbour.....
Like... where did all this hostility come from? and his claims?... like ... Do not fear them.. Fear Me...
Why does war and fighting and violence seem so prominant?
and it is the religeon of peace?
Christ taught Peace, never did I hear him command anyone to KILL unbelievers.
What I am saying is Jesus never said the things Muhammad said, in most cases it is the opposite
but the message from the two prophets/messengers is totally different.
anarshia
Anyway muslims doesn't believe that Allah or any of the prophet condoned and preached violence .
Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) wars were all defensive
Unless you're reading directed propaganda , twisted facts and unauthentic sources that leads you to think otherwise .
Here are two books by Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Al Shirazi (qas) about war and peace in islam clarifying many of misconceptions about islamic wars :
If both are the word of God put in text then shouldnt they both get the same respect despite our differences and in presence of God.
It is just a matter of time until we realize that they all are the same and ONE. Each book is an edition or an expansion pack if u will to its previous version. Combined they make one.
theuntoldstory
the only way to Allah is through total submission,
thetimelord
To me the message from Jesus was to look out for false prophets that will come in his name
but the Crucifixion was one of the best-documented events in history
Was the Devil trying to make Jesus God so we worshiped him would he do that? Even without Jesus we pray to his heavenly version anyway the Father but through Jesus we find a way in.
Many as 300 prophecies mention Jesus in details including his death
speakeroftruth
Now, I have read parts of the Koran and I have noticed the emphasis on Mosaic law in it. The problem with emphasizing Mosaic law is that everything changed when Christ came.
puneetsg
The problem is never the religion itself, but its manipulation after the passing of the protaginist
originally posted by Nygdan
They say, jesus was a great prophet, he reformed and advanced the old religion of abraham, and god loved him so much that he snatched him away from the cross to spare his beloved prophet from physical suffering, that god wouldn't punish a holy man, and htat only 'perverted' and errant christians would beleive that god would do that and then turn that man into god himself.
Originally posted by Nygdan
I don't think that there's a single holy book in existence that can be shown to have not been edited (and most show that they indeed were edited).
Originally posted by puneetsg
The 'Guru Granth Sahib', the Holy Book of the Sikhs is in its original form
Originally posted by Nygdan
Doh!
But give it a thousand years, some well intentioned copy-editor will start switching things around.