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Originally posted by tormentor
I hope someone can answer me these questions.
1.After the new jerusalem is build in Revelation ch 21,I wonder,what is outside of jerusalem?
2.Does the sinful people still live among this universe somewhere else or are they destoryed?
3.Does the Lake of Fire last forever for the sinful people?
4.Could this be true?www.hisremnant.org...
5.I heard that there can be no good without evil and no evil without good,how long does this last?Forever?
junglejake,what would you say?
Originally posted by dbrandt
1 A new heaven and a new earth.
Originally posted by dbrandt
Originally posted by dbrandt
1 A new heaven and a new earth.
I should have added to this, eternity. For those who have placed their faith in Christ they will forever be with God. We will actually see and live with God.
There will never never never again be sin in our life or temptation to distract us or destroy us. We will not be on a countdown to death but really have life as God meant it to be for us.
Originally posted by Rasputin13
Sometimes I just don't know who or what to believe. I guess I should stop putting off reading the Bible, and maybe then I'll develope my own answers. In the meantime I will just have to continue blindly placing my faith in God and truly believing that he will do what is best for us in the afterlife.
Originally posted by tormentor
2.Does the sinful people still live among this universe somewhere else or are they destoryed?
3.Does the Lake of Fire last forever for the sinful people?
5.I heard that there can be no good without evil and no evil without good,how long does this last?Forever?
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Romans 8:18--
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1 Corinthians 2:9--
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Jeremiah 29:11--
Originally posted by tormentor
I hope someone can answer me these questions.
1.After the new jerusalem is build in Revelation ch 21,I wonder,what is outside of jerusalem?
2.Does the sinful people still live among this universe somewhere else or are they destoryed?
3.Does the Lake of Fire last forever for the sinful people?
4.Could this be true? www.hisremnant.org...
5.I heard that there can be no good without evil and no evil without good,how long does this last?Forever?
Originally posted by UnrealZA
Yes, the lake of fire is eternal.
Originally posted by dbrandt
Those who rejected Jesus Christ will forever be in the Lake of Fire.
...as I've already said; sin, pain, evil, hate, wrath, etc. are only finite things.
True that the wrath of God is not the same as the ignorant anger of humanoids, but the object of God's wrath must be impermanent(remember, only God is Eternal), so how could God have infinite wrath against something that is finite?
However, this doesn't mean that there is no hell.
Everybody pays what they owe.
Samael Aun Weor has taught that the Second Death is millions of times more bitter than bile, and that it is like a walk in park compared to the suffering that we could go through physically.
The Buddhists teach that one level hell consists of having molten metal poured into our mouths over and over.
Anyway...
Many self-proclaimed Christians may be very surprised to find, that they will eventually have to pay for Karmasaya and Kamaduro(fornication) regardless of how much they believe.
Originally posted by tormentor
more questions,revelation talks about the first death and the second death
1.Whats the difference?
2.What is the second death really like in all details?
Originally posted by tormentor
more questions,revelation talks about the first death and the second death
1.Whats the difference?
2.What is the second death really like in all details?
Good luck!
Karma 4: The Wheel
...Samael Aun Weor has revealed to us the secret of the Buddha's Necklace: the mala of 108 beads. These beads represent the 108 lives we are assigned when we attain a human birth. We have 108 opportunities to awaken. And if we do not, we descend, we involute, back down the wheel.
So, if from life to life we do nothing but feed our desire, and react our of anger and jealousy, and live to support our vanity and pride, then we build tremendous formations in our minds, and we die... and we are reborn in accordance to the weight in our minds... and 108 times we do this...
Then nature has no choice but to balance the imbalance we created, by purifying our minds for us, by recycling us back down the wheel.
This is the Second Death, mentioned in the Bible and in the Egyptian Mysteries. This is Hell.
Hell is nature's recycling plant, where the Essence, that which is pure in us, is freed from the formations we have built around it. But nature, as you can observe in the processes of life all around us, works slowly...
So yes, it is painful to see the ugliness in our minds, the hatred in our hearts, but it is less painful than nature's way.
Presently, in the "Avitchi" (Hell) of the Black Moon, there exist millions of human beings who are paying terrible Karmas. The mind of the Magician becomes horrified when contemplating Lucifer (who is submerged within ardent fire and Sulphur).
The mind of the Magician becomes terrified when contemplating the famous Inquisitors from the Middle Ages, who are suffering in the fire which they made others once endure, and who are exhaling the same painful woes which they once made others exhale.
The soul of the Magician shakes with horror when contemplating the great tyrants of "war" who suffer their terrible Karmas in the Black Moon.
There we see Hitler and Mussolini suffering the martyrdom of the fire which they unleashed over defenseless cities.
There we see Abbadon, the angel of the Abyss, who suffers in the chains and bonds with which he martyrized others.
There we see Mariela, the great female Magician, embraced in the fire of her own evilness.
There we see Jahveh and Caiaphas (the supreme priest), both receiving the same torture of the cross on which they condemned the Master (Christ).
There we see the "Imperator," founder of the A.M.O.R.C. School of California, who is seized by the black magical "cord" or "rope" with which he and his followers bind their naive disciples. - Samael Aun Weor, Occult Medicine and Practical Magic
So the choice is: purify your own mind, or nature will do it for you. Those who do not purify themselves, who continue to create complications in the mind, by pursing desire, are purified by going back down the wheel, suffering through many successive existences...
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15--
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
when you were 2 years old, you wanted:
"let me play with my toy"
why do we need the word "me" in that sentence, of course it is you who wants to play with the toy. same thing with the "my".
"let play with toy"
well, what else do you do with a toy, than "play with' it?
"let toy"
this is what a 2 year old wants most, right?
let us use this want to help potty train them. we'll name the crap basin something nice, and that a child would want ... .
let toy, no ..... . TOY LET
If any man's work(good deeds) shall be burned(through fornication), he shall suffer loss(because she or he will re-acquire heavy karma): but he himself(His Buddha Nature) shall be saved; yet so as by fire(either through pain in the Second Death, or through Consciously walking the straight, narrow Path of the Razor's Edge). - 1 Corinthians 3:15
Originally posted by Tamahu
Hi queenannie
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15--
That is a pretty significant statement, in relation to what the Fire of the Holy Spirit really is(the Power of Creation itself, found in the sexual glands in man(Yesod), and found in the throat(Daath) of God(the Word).
We can utilize the Sexual Energy(Fire) in a Chaste way, in order to Create the Soul(that Jesus said we will possess with patience, meaning that we don't own our Souls yet).
And if we don't choose the way of Chastity(meaning that we continue to allow fornication which is the orgasm, and also negative thoughts, words, and deeds), then the Fire of the Holy Spirit will destroy our sins in the Hell Realms, in a very long and painful way, which is the Second Death.
Bodhicitta (Sanskrit)
Literally, Bodhi means "enlightenment" or "wisdom." Citta means mind. The synthesis, bodhicitta means "the enlightened mind" or the "mind of wisdom." This term has many levels of application.
(1) In an introductory form, it is used to describe the altruistic intention to attain enlightenment for the benefit of suffering beings.
2) In Mahayana teachings it is an elevated state of awareness (prajna) which directly perceives Emptiness.
3) In Tantrism it refers to the seminal fluids of the body.
4) Samael Aun Weor often expresses the synthesis of the term, which combines all these meanings.
"The Bodhicitta is the awakened and developed superlative Consciousness of the Being. The Bodhicitta emerges in the aspirant who sacrifices himself for his fellowmen, long before the Mercurial bodies have been created... It is necessary for the Bodhicitta, which means the auric embryo, the awakened Consciousness, to fall into the Illuminated Void." - The Pistis Sophia Unveiled
"Obviously, before the Bodhisattva is born, the Bodhicitta must be formed within ourselves. Furthermore, it is important to clarify the necessity of disintegrating the ego, the “I,” in order for the Bodhicitta to emerge. The Bodhicitta is formed with the merits of love and supreme sacrifice for our fellowmen. The Bodhisattva is formed within the environment and psychological atmosphere of the Bodhicitta." - The Pistis Sophia Unveiled
www.gnosticteachings.org...
tol·er·ance:
1. The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.
2. a. Leeway for variation from a standard.
b. The permissible deviation from a specified value of a structural dimension, often expressed as a percent.
3. The capacity to endure hardship or pain.
The primary virtue of the Gnostic Teachings is Tolerance. (He who has an ear to hear, let him hear).
To truly embody the Gnostic Wisdom, you have to consciously and lovingly:
1. Recognize and respect the beliefs or practices of others.
2. Not expect others to live according to your ideas.
3. Endure hardship or pain.
Tolerance is best learned in a marriage.
The perfect matrimony is one in which love has become perfected, in spite of our "differences."
If you cannot develop tolerance and love with a spouse, you cannot develop it with anyone.
If you cannot respect the beliefs of the one you love, how can you respect the beliefs of those you do not love? How can you learn to love those you do not respect?
Tolerance is a virtue of the consciousness. It is not just "to tolerate" the behaviors of others. Tolerance as a virtue is not just patience or indifference, it is respect.
When you respect the beliefs and practices of others, you treat them well and with care.
When you do not respect the beliefs and practices of others, you either try to change them to accept your beliefs and practices, or you reject them and ridicule them. Neither of these attitudes is conscious. Neither is Gnostic.
This is why those who criticize the beliefs and practices of others are violating the rules of the path.
(Transvaluation)
Superiority (pride) is another obstacle to awakening. Superiority breeds intolerance, and intolerance breeds criticism. The critic sees many Defects in others and fails to see any in himself. He is therefore blind to his own faults. So it is obvious that only when one puts oneself in another's place, and sees with their point of view, can the individual develop and learn tolerance towards others. The result of tolerance is then the disappearance and eradication of criticism.
To love is to respect. To try to change others by force, by manipulation, or by criticism is evil will, and is black magic.
My advice to couples: learn to accept your spouse as they are. If you seek to change anything, change yourself. Learn to love others just as they are.
Compassion
...Many of us have difficulty distinguishing between COMPASSION and TOLERANCE.
The Monks of Tibet who stood by while their comrades were killed and raped obviously suffered this conflict: they did not understand that ACTION is often superior to TOLERANCE.
To tolerate the ego of another person is vital at certain times; but in other cases it is a deadly mistake.
The Gods pass beyond GOOD and EVIL, even beyond this word "compassion." The Gods can appear terribly cruel, and yet they act through the light of the Christ.
Compassion manifests according to the Level of Being.
Do not mistake compassion with tolerance.
Best regards.