Could it be, We've Asked for it?

Perhaps Samuel Johnson's most famous quotation is "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" The point, as I always understood it, is that appealing to loyalty to one's own country is the act of a demagogue, of one who will say and do anything to gain public approval and political power. Primarily, it casts those who disagree as unpatriotic. ...
The quote is famous, but I don't know the context in which it was said. I do know that there is nothing wrong with patriotism itself. ...

Try to count how many times Bush have used the words patriotic, patriot. Probably more than he has use the word "therreaur" - or whatever way to spell the peculiar way he pronounces terror. Patriotism is a emotionally charged word than can make wonders as to get people on your side.

But what kind of side is it the Bush wants you to join?

The side of your rights and freedom, he wants you to believe, while at the same time cutting those rights slice by slice. Somehow he makes half of the American people believe he does it for the benefit of their own best.

US has always been seen as the policeman of the world, now beyond competition the only one left to enforce law and order. But what law and what order does he want? The law of democracy and the order of a new world, he says.

First, as it was recently pointed out by a member on this forum, democracy is something there's been around for 2 centuries, so we should not expect oligarchic rule overnight to turn democratic - even when they're forced. No, it takes standards to achieve. First of all standards of education. Few countries in the world, though they might be named "democracies" can meet those standards. I think many of them are better off with whatever rule they've got and should be aided to reach a standard of education for its people so they’ll be able to think for themselves.

Here a catch 22 comes in, for most souls on this earth, if gaining that ability, would revolt against their leaders. That's why Democracy Here and Now only will benefit the skilled player, never the rural peasant. But it’s the perfect excuse and Mantra of NewWorldOrder. Come hell or high water, democracy must be enforced. Unfortunately it cannot be taught to someone who only learned superstition and myth embedded in religion, who never learned reason based on facts.

The idea of NWO is us all to become one. Not with any god, no, but with an entity never before seen, THE EMPIRE. That's the agenda of the neocons. Forget about any ism at all, forget about diversity, no borders, no other rule than one, no other people than the one belonging to The Empire.

WTO is working at it right now, and US army and foreign policy will any time soon have paved the road into areas for its rule to be implemented. Thus the blessings of free trade shall shine on the liberated. No more hassle and drivel, no more arguing and fighting, but endless freedom for the players to place their stakes.

For the sake of competition the seed of greed must be sown. By promoting "the American Way". If they won't buy it, we'll send "lawyers, guns and money". If that doesn't work, we send the marines. The last resort.

Americans might not understand not everybody wanna buy that way. Not everybody wanna buy junk-food, shallow entertainment and pornography. Is it so hard to understand that some people are insulted enough by that way, that they are willing to die fighting it, rather than be subdued?

When the war started I said, why don't they give them fridges and colour tvs, then they would be less likely to join Al Queda.

The $315 billions American taxpayers so far have spent on the war, could have paid off the debt of all nations. Don't you think, we would have had a better world then? If the money was spend on that purpose prior to 9/11, do you then think there would have been a 9/11?

Ignorance sometimes asks for it. Arrogance always does.

[edit on 16/9/06 by khunmoon]

Well said khun, the problem is that there's a few people running this earth-mainly of European stock and they want to play it their way no matter what it takes. Their is no logic in their actions your dealing with people who would murder their own children if it meant they could make more money or gain more power.

We need to identify these people and deal with them before they enslave the whole planet and its about time that we the people started to fight back.

... there's a few people running this earth-mainly of European stock and they want to play it their way no matter what it takes. Their is no logic in their actions your dealing with people who would murder their own children if it meant they could make more money or gain more power.

We need to identify these people ...

I agree magic, but to us those people are without face or name. They hide behind closed doors - or deep inside the Rockies. Where to find them?

The only trail I know off is the so-called Neocons, they have a front, but what is their back?

Mainly of European stock, you say. What do you base it on?

[edit on 17/9/06 by khunmoon]

I was trying to add the counter Cost of War to the post, but it's not possible. Takes a webpage or blog that reads _javascript and html to do that.

If you want to add the counter to your webpage go to National Priorities Project - Cost of War and you'll find no fuzz instructions to install it.

Out of curiosity I took a one minute count today. Came out like this:
$317,113,449,379>$317,113,623,271, it computes to money spend:

$173.892 one minute
$10.433.520 one hour
$250.404.480 one day
$1.752.831.360 one week

In 30 days it adds up to
$7 billion 512 million 134 hundred thousand and 400 dollars

Gotta ask, is the war really is worth that much money? Your money, the taxpayers money.

What else they could they be used for?
What they're badly needed for the website suggests.

By the times I had finished writing this the costs had risen to
total cost of war had risen to
$317,121,620,327

[edit on 24/9/06 by khunmoon]

[edit on 23/9/06 by khunmoon]

Took a new estimate today and beware! THE COSTS IS UP.

About 5 minutes they were:
$345.682.712.969 which since last posted, 63 days ago, gives:
$28.561.092.642 spend

$453.350.677 453 million dollars in one day
$18.889.612 19 million dollars in one hour
$314.827 315 thousand dollars in one minute
$5.247 5 thousand dollars per second

$13 billion 600 million 520 thousands and 306 dollars in 30 days

More than 450 million dollars every day. Amazing!

The link updated costofwar.com...

Yes people have asekd for it. Those that are arrogant to be blinded by the events that are happening around us are arrogant to not see the NWO. The US army is working with the NWO and the army is obviously paving the way for the NWO's future. Such things as your street signs in your street or road can make it look like they have been rather messy. The NWO claims to be the good guys. We have yet to know who the bad guys are.

There has obviously been some conspiracies here but the new order of the world is going to be upon us after we finish taking over Iraq. It's not like it will change the rest of the events of the world but more and more people seem to gladly give up security for rights and civil liberties.

If we are to change the one world order so it must be up to the people to do that. The people have the right to change any government, to abolish any government, and to make a new one in its place. So it's not like the president can do whatever he wants-- even though it may seem like this at times.

People are going to be even more willing to accept the One world order when the next major crisis takes place that can mean that after the war on Iraq other problems arise and new conflicts face the world so it's like it will not change the outcome of the current events.

Estimate for December! THE COSTS IS DOWN.

About 5 minutes ago they were:
$353,740,317,833

$345.682.712.969 last posted, 31 days ago, gives:
$8.057.604.864 spend

$259.922.738 260 million dollars in one day
$10.830.114 11 million dollars in one hour
$180.502 181 thousand dollars in one minute
$3.008 3 thousand dollars per second

$8 billion 57 million 604 thousands and 864 dollars in 30 days
Tho DOWN from last month with about 40%, it is still

Almost 260 million dollars every day. Amazing!

The link updated costofwar.com...


[edit on 27-12-2006 by khunmoon]

the NWO is already here and the US is running the show...

and my government crawls right up their arse




In Peace Always

The costs are getting steady! Only Slightly Up

361.998.445.994 this month
353.740.317.833 last month
8.258.128.161 costs this month 8.3 Billion Dollars in 31 days

1 day 266.391.231 ...266 Millions every day

1 hour 11.099.635 ...11 Millions every hour

1 minutte 184.994 ...185 Thousand every minute

1 second 3.083 More than 3 Thousand Dollars a second