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Originally posted by zerotime
So these Muslims wouldn't be upset or rioting over those dutch cartoons or the Popes comments if a couple of Arab countries had not been invaded in the past few years? I'm sorry, but I do not buy that excuse. Fanatics are fanatics.
Originally posted by df1
So you believe that muslims violence is caused because they are upset about cartoons and papal comments, rather than muslims being PO'd over being invaded, bombed, shot, abused and having their natural resources stolen. To say the least, I find your assertion completely foreign to the realm our reality.
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
And did he mentionned that Christians also did this? Killing millions of people because they were infidels? Pope, STFU.
Originally posted by ThinksYouAreAnIdiot
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Christians extremists are bombing abortion clinics in the USA and killing doctors who perform them. They are in an organisation, but the government isn't against them... why? Because it's the base of the pro-republicans voters. Even if they kill, it's not important, as soon as they vote for the neo-cons.
[edit on 14-9-2006 by Vitchilo]
Really? Because the only person who have ever been convicted of bombing an abortion clinic was a confirmed athiest.
Show me where christians extreemists have bombed an abortion clinic.
Eric Robert Rudolph, also known as the Olympic Park Bomber (born September 19, 1966) is an American domestic terrorist who committed a series of bombings across the southern United States, which killed three people and injured at least 150 others. There is evidence to suggest that his actions may have been motiviated by a form of extremist christianity making this Christian Terrorism, however there is no direct admission of this. Rudolph, who according to CNN was "connected with the Christian Identity movement, a militant, racist, and anti-Semitic organization,"
Please, the reason for the vipolence is that islam is a religon which is based on, depends on, and justifies violence for a host of reasons, and alos claims that its adherants are "chosen" people destined to rule the world.
Originally posted by ThinksYouAreAnIdiot
Since when is paying 70$ a barrell for a commodity that is being artificially made more scarce by an international muslim cabal (opec) stealing?
Invaded?
Who?
Afghanistan? A country which attcked us directly?
Name one muslim country with a decent economy.
name one muslim country that isn't a massive human rights violater.
Name one muslims country that has immigration in-flows instead of mass exodus to the west.
Originally posted by df1
So you believe that muslims violence is caused because they are upset about cartoons and papal comments, rather than muslims being PO'd over being invaded, bombed, shot, abused and having their natural resources stolen. To say the least, I find your assertion completely foreign to the realm our reality.
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The Vatican's new foreign minister sought on Friday to calm anger across the Muslim world over comments Pope Benedict XVI made calling elements of Islam 'evil and inhuman'.
Benedict did not mean to question the 'worth of Islam,' said Dominique Mamberti who took office Friday.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Christians extremists are bombing abortion clinics in the USA and killing doctors who perform them. They are in an organisation, but the government isn't against them... why? Because it's the base of the pro-republicans voters. Even if they kill, it's not important, as soon as they vote for the neo-cons.
[edit on 14-9-2006 by Vitchilo]
Originally posted by NettieMoore
Having read the whole of the Pope's speech (or tried to, it's pretty boring) the controversial quote is at odds with the rest. In fact it it did briefly occur to me that it was some kind of signal that had a context outside of the speech and event he was at. This is a conspiracy site after all. He's going to Turkey in November and the quote was by a Byzantine Emperor. Alternatively perhaps he's got a death wish and wants to ge topped when he visits. In fact of course the previous Pope was nearly assasinated in Turkey in the early 80s.
Here is the full transcript of the Pope's speach.
His last sentence should help you understand the overall context of the speach.
It is to this great logos, to this breadth of reason, that we invite our partners in the dialogue of cultures.
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Ali Bardakoglu, a cleric who is head of the Turkish government’s directorate of religious affairs, said in a television interview there. “He should first of all replace the grudge in his heart with moral values and respect for the other.”
Originally posted by Souljah
And How would You People feel, if a Supreme Islamic Cleric would declare, that Christianity and Judaism is based on Violence and that they preach death and war?
Originally posted by sal88
well i would feel slightly annoyed that they could in effect be making my religion seem intolerant of others.
But i would give them the benefit of the doubt, bearing in mind the media loves to hype things up, just as i have done in this case, and rightly so, as I can't actually find the bit that you are referring to in the transcript.