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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Democracy only stands because America stands, with our debt out of control how long will our beloved Democracy last?
Originally posted by Rockpuck
I know that nogrit, I usually refer to US as a republic, however we try and spread "democracy" in what ever form that may be, constitutional, monarch democracy what ever. The point for all of that is of course so that our government can pressure those democracies to do as our govenrment wishes.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
Thanks guys for the great responses.
First, I would agree that the party system needs to go, it only divides people. Everyone is pushed into these parties no matter what you believe, they would normally be independant but you can't get elected that way unless your from a small area and are well known.
I would disagree that we are a bourgeois democracy, middle class, but more of an aristocracy, rich run the government. Kerry? billionair. Bush? Millionair. you have to be rich to get into office, to campaign.
Democracy is not new that is true, but the only country I can think of that has used it extensivly is Greece, which was alot different then the way we do it. Romes Senate was a republic.
An absolute monarch that could be elected into a life time office, and elected out of office if they are not running things right, and keep the military under the control of civilians would work would it not?
Originally posted by iori_komei
Originally posted by Rockpuck
Thanks guys for the great responses.
First, I would agree that the party system needs to go, it only divides people. Everyone is pushed into these parties no matter what you believe, they would normally be independant but you can't get elected that way unless your from a small area and are well known.
I would disagree that we are a bourgeois democracy, middle class, but more of an aristocracy, rich run the government. Kerry? billionair. Bush? Millionair. you have to be rich to get into office, to campaign.
Democracy is not new that is true, but the only country I can think of that has used it extensivly is Greece, which was alot different then the way we do it. Romes Senate was a republic.
An absolute monarch that could be elected into a life time office, and elected out of office if they are not running things right, and keep the military under the control of civilians would work would it not?
Actually I think you have it backwards, Kerries a millionare, and Bush is a billionare.
Also, technically the military is supposed to be under civilian control,
hence why you can't be the president if your currently serving in the
military. But yeah, it does need more civillian control.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
I would disagree that we are a bourgeois democracy, middle class, but more of an aristocracy, rich run the government. Kerry? billionair. Bush? Millionair. you have to be rich to get into office, to campaign.
Originally posted by AlphaHumana
I don't know, ArbitraryGuy, the meaning of bourgeois to me has always been fairly derogatory....
I don't want to nitpick, but I wouldn't call the current usage of the term to describe rich people or the "owners of capital" - it always seemed to me to have a negative connotation.