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Originally posted by ceci2006
Well, in a new push by the three Amigos not to further political bickering, I refrain to answer.
So, it'll just be a mystery about what I'd say.
Have a nice day, Mr. Author.
Originally posted by ceci2006
I love the Quakers. ... They are White, are they not?
Originally posted by ceci2006
I do have one more question about your comments. And if you do not decide to answer me, maybe someone else who believes in a "color blind world" (again an observation, not an insult) would.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
As has been mentioned, we can't expect to be color blind. That is neither practical nor the goal, as far as I'm concerned. The goal is to allow for and celebrate our racial differences and work toward further social equality.
Originally quoted by Benevolent Heretic
Racism exists. Sexism exists. Prejudice against other people exists. We need to learn to deal with it. I don't think they're going away, but talking about them is a Good Thing.
Originally posted by ceci2006
But my questions about a color blind society afterward still hold water. They did not attack anyone. They were simply questions and observations. And they deserve to be addressed just like your comments deserve to. And I am not afraid of reading your comments. I read everything you say.
I wish you would have read it ...
But unfortunately, when reading your previous quote opposed to what was said once in the old days, I suppose that you truly don't practice what you preach. Again, you personalized my comments by saying "stuff". And refused to read the rest.
What ever happened to discussing it out? Isn't that what you felt was a "good thing"?
Or are you truly giving in to being hard-hearted and bitter about this?
If you truly did listen with patience and tolerance, you would read my words regardless and ask why I felt the way I did about a color blind society. Not write them off. That is what you did. And you can't escape that with saying it's an accusation now.
You can't just ignore personalizing everything, can you?
Originally posted by ceci2006
Set me straight you have, Miss Scarlett.
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So, let me go back to the slave quarters now
No more bickering after this, truly. But I had to ask these questions and address this issue even though this will be written off like the others.
The term is generally of a derogatory nature, and seems to be resident to the South. Despite its negative connotations, it is sometimes seen as a term of endearment, especially among White Georgians, although many Southern whites do not use nor do they approve of the term. "Cracker" has specific ethnic connotations, directed towards White Southerners, and more frequently, poor ones.
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Clarence Major, in his Dictionary of Afro-American Slang, lists two rather interesting ideas about the origin of the term. The first is that a "cracker" was a slang term used by 19th Century Georgian slaves to refer to the slavemasters. If this were in fact, true, then the term would come directly from the cracking of the slavemaster's whip.
Cracker is also a Black name for whites, especially those thought to be racists.
The term Dixiecrat is a portmanteau of Dixie, referring to the Southern United States, and Democrat, referring to the United States Democratic Party. Initially, it referred to a 1948 splinter from the party: for over a century, white Southerners had overwhelmingly been Democrats, but that year many bolted the party and supported Strom Thurmond's third-party candidacy for president of the United States. Over the next several decades, as the white South slowly re-aligned from the Democrats to the Republicans, the term came to have a broader usage, including, for example, with reference to the members of the Electoral College who in the election of 1960 voted for Harry Flood Byrd rather than John F. Kennedy, or the white Southern voters and electors who in 1968 supported George C. Wallace.
The term has also been used to refer to conservative white Southerners who remain within the Democratic Party, and those who were formerly Democrats but now identify as Republicans.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Being gay is not a burden that you carry around. It's who you are. It's something to be proud of! It's part of the essence of you. Whoever is stupid and ignorant enough to put you down because you're gay has BIG problems. But it's their problem! You don't have a problem! You're a wonderful, intelligent, loving person and being gay is NOT something to be ashamed of or to carry around as a burden. Discrimination is the problem and it's other people who are doing that. You should do your very best to walk with your head held high and not carry other people's judgments against you as a "burden".
Originally posted by Odium
The trick is to not deny the burden, to not deny we have it placed upon us [and whtie people do have a burden on them as well]. The trick is, to accept it and to try harder to compensate it.
AS for her website, there really is no debate there. She does have racial slurs on her website. However, she did not post them. Simon is not responsible for what you say,
Originally posted by Odium
Benevolent Heretic, I didn't take the line out of context but rather had problem with that section of it. That knee-jerk remark, seems to be very much the problem with this whole thread and I am shocked that it hasn't been trashed yet.
The Gay person, then applied for the job as did a heterosexual. It is sad to say, but it is more likely that the heterosexual will get it because many people are still bigots.
Originally posted by notbuynit
You got some stats to back that up or what? Last I checked homosexuals not only did as well as minorities but better than the average American.
Originally posted by notbuynit
Homosexuals have always done better than blacks, don't even hijack this thread with that ignorance.
Originally posted by notbuynit
Don't even compare the black movement with the homosexual movement.
Originally posted by notbuynit
You're only gay if you tell them. Your choice and even then it doesn't matter that much. Don't even go there.