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China + No Korea new Missiles.

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posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 12:32 PM
Hmmmm, China and No. Korea are ready to show off to the world their new missile systems, and it looks like we are ready and waiting for the test !

I would love to see the USN or Japan shoot down the No. Korean missile next week if the No. Koreans shoot another missile over Japan like they did last year.

"info from 3 sites UPI, Pravda and World Tribune"

by Martin Sieff
UPI Senior News Analyst
Washington (UPI) Jun 14, 2006

China's new Dong Feng-31, or CSS-9, road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile is expected to enter service during 2006, Jane's Intelligence reported on its Web site on June 9. The DF-31 is expected to be followed by the extended-range DF-31A version in 2007, the Web site said.

It cited the 2006 edition of the U.S. Department of Defense's annual report on Chinese military capabilities. Both missiles will enter service with the People's Liberation Army Second Artillery.

North Korea to Launch Taepodong-2 Missile to Hit US Territory Next Week.

June 13, 2006

Pyongyang is about to test an intercontinental ballistic missile which will be capable of reaching the USA. The information was revealed by spokespeople for the George Bush administration in Washington yesterday. An anonymous US official said that North Korea is planning to launch the missile next week.

U.S. missile defense ready, waiting for expected N. Korea launch.

Special to World
Thursday, June 8, 2006
The U.S. ground-based missile defense system is set to intercept any North Korean long-range missile launch amid indications Pyongyang is preparing to test fire a Taepodong missile.

The missile defense system includes 10 ground-based interceptors, plus radars and other sensors, deployed in Asia, Alaska and California.

A recent U.S. intelligence report stated, “The multiple-stage Taepodong-2, potentially capable of reaching parts of the United States with a nuclear-weapon-sized payload — may be ready for flight-testing.”

posted on Jun, 18 2006 @ 11:31 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the next Cold War. This conflict will seem "new" to anyone under the age of 30, but it's old hat for therst of us over the age of 40. This stand-off will bring with it many new challenges. Since many of today's U.S. leaders are hold-overs from the first Cold War, I have to wonder of those old dogs can really learn new tricks.

As you can see from the capabilities listed in the links provided by the person who started this thread, this won't be your daddy's nuclear nightmare. The 21st Century version of this poker game will be much different. Most of the world's societies are highly dependedent upon un-shielded electronics.

The old school threat of ground burst to "pave" one's enemy is no longer necessary. In today's world, a high-altitude air burst to broadcast an EMP would be more than sufficient to snuff out anyone's thriving society. To this extent, any member of the nuclear club won't need a lot of bombs. They will only need just enough to turn the lights out...for the next hundred years.

You can make the case that "death by EMP" could be achieved with relatively minor property damage, and moderate civilian casualties. Even so, the specter of Nagasaki and Hiroshima make the use of these weapons potential bad politics. Whoever does it first would amost certainly have to expect retalliation. Under the wrong circumstances, we could be looking at a new dark age.

Even so, there is bound to be at least one ambitious political leader who will rise to power in this century who might...just bold enough to play the gambler's game.

posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 04:05 AM
There 2 completly different missiles. The n.Korean missiles has a range of about 4,000km+ and the chinese missile has a range of something between 8,000km to 12,000km.

But most importantly china's missiles purpose is to replace the liquid fueled missiles that china already has in silo's with these new missiles which harder to hit or find becuase there mobile.

North korea's missile only purpose is to be aimed at United States.

Interestingly enough this missile and its technology will be in Iran in a few months time

posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 10:22 AM
It does seem rather likely that Iran will end up with this technology. I agree.

posted on Jun, 22 2006 @ 12:44 AM
As the world watches and waits to see if the North Koreans will test-fire their ICBM, I am reminded of the "first" cold war (1946-1989). Those of you who are less than 40 years old won't have enough memory to recall what that was like.

China is using North Korea for their own purposes. That much is clear. This kind of proxy conflict is also straight out of the old school playbook. There is, however, one twist. In today's world, the EMP from a nuclear warhead is more dangerous (long term) than the ground-burst potential for the weapons themselves.

Some of us who post on these boards can remember life before microchips. The fact is that in today's wireless world, all modern societies are quite vulnerable to EMP attack. It's quite likely that any nation so affected would require a hundred years to fully recover.

If North Korea wants to engage in blackmail, they really don't need very many weapons to do it. A single EMP attack can blanket several hundred square miles. Morethan enough to wreck the heart of any small country's industrial base. In the case of the United States, a single well-placed EMP attack would cripple us for generations to come.

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