Nickelodeon poisoning kids?

The all seeing eye has crossed over from mystical symbol, to pop culture. It happens all the time, would you be as freaked if they had put yin-yangs all over the screen?

Ultimately the all seeing eye as a symbol predates the Illuminati, just as the swastika predates teh Nazi's and the two headed eagle predates the Scottish rite, it's tough to trademark ancient symbols.

Looks like no one has noticed the zigzag lightning bolt. Any kid would recognize this as the scar on Harry Potter's forehead.

Now you have magic/special children (via Harry Potter reference) + All Seeing Eye.

Go nuts.

The symbols are there as a kind of "gang sign" so to speak. The conditioning is built-in to the frequencies and the emotional signalling of the people on the television. They merely have to watch, they just have to sit there for hours on end. It reaches a point where so many people are asleep, and so conditioned, that they do not realise how the world used to look like, how they used to feel and think, and how things are supposed to be, because their minds are in their "tv world" and their entire personality has been shaped by the television.

This isnt the first time I've seen this. When I was a kid, back in the 90's they had stuff like this if I remember correctly.

Then I suppose this would bother the hell out of you!!!

Ok I read some of the posts here and as a parent I am much more concerned about the mind numbing drivel coming from the disney channel, The shows are horrid, hanna montana, wizards of wavey, sweet life, and on and on. Although I guess I carly, and Spongebob are just as bad, at least SPogebob is mildly funny, but Disney channel is banned at my house. There is no educational value whatsoever. Wow enough with my rant.
As for the picture in the original post, I cant see any reason why they would need those exact symbols for anything, so the question is ... why???

reply to post by Azi

because this is freaking crazy!

I fail to see why this is "freaking crazy" or crazy at all. Pyramids with an eye above them are a very common symbol, one doesn't need to be an occultist, free mason or illuminati operative to utilize that symbol. Nickelodeon, as far as I know, is owned by Viacom. Viacom and CBS were once the same company. So Viacom, CBS and Nick were all tied together. As you know CBS symbol is an eye so it makes perfect sense that Nick would use that symbol at some point to.

Also, how exactly is seeing a symbol going to poison you? Sounds like superstitious uber-paranoid nonsense.

Parents should ban their kids from seeing Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Disney Channel etc.

Todays kid programs does nothing but making our kids stressed and destroys their concentration and learning abilities.

This is not a conspiracy per say, since this is just simple marketing in effect.
They want viewers and have made user test, as to how they keep children on their netword.
Fast paced animations, with very short stories is apparently what they have reached as conclusion to this!

When my kid wants to watch tv, I show them kids stuff from when I was a kid, its slow paced, the kids can immerse themselves in the story, and learn to concentrate and evolve their attention span.

Just my 5 cents

Originally posted by Schrödinger
When my kid wants to watch tv, I show them kids stuff from when I was a kid, its slow paced, the kids can immerse themselves in the story, and learn to concentrate and evolve their attention span.

I think even that needs to be considered. The cartoons and programs that were on when I was younger had numerous recial and sexual undertones that many may find inappropriate.

reply to post by Schrödinger


Absolutely false. I stay home with my daughter and teach her--do flashcards, read to her, count, etc. trying to set her up for success. She's 21 mos. old now, and she can count to ten in Spanish, knows her ABCs, colors, and can count to, and identify, numbers 1-14. This all started because of Nick Jr. I started modestly, trying to get her to count to five with no luck. A month later, when her grandparents came to see her, she rattled off one through ten to my utter astonishment. Nick Jr. started, and has helped, this greatly as the praise she's received from learning things has motivated her to learn more. I taught her colors and shapes afterward, all because of the initial praise she got by learning this from TV. A few weeks ago my wife and I were shocked to hear uno, dos, tres all the way to diez, coming from our daughter while she was playing on the steps. Again, that's not something I taught her, that's Dora the f*ing Explorer's work right there.

I certainly agree that our kids should not be sat in front of a TV all day long, which is why there is a strict limit as to how much she is allowed to watch. I'm not saying TV is a better teacher than a parent, but it did open up options for me. My guess, was that she could relate to some characters more than she could me at the time. I don't know what it was, but I was absolutely shocked that a TV show succeeded where I failed. I am certainly thankful that she learned her numbers so quickly, as she has responded so well to other endeavors and just loves learning right now. Thank goodness my goal is to teach high school or college, because I might be a miserable elementary school teacher!

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


I am from Denmark, here are some examples of what I am talking about.
There is no racial slur, I promise you that, the rest you can decide for yourself!





These are all just examples of what I mean, compare these videos to the stuff we show our kids today.

I have a theory, and it is only a theory, but I apply it to my kids, and I believe it is working.
Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network etc. stresses the children, they cannot focus and concentrate for longer periods of time, they do not have the ability to immerse themselves, relate and reflect to what is happening.

I am not saying it is all bad, I am not saying that you hurt your kids by letting them watch Nickelodeon. In my experience though, it is better to limit their time with the TV, and when they do watch TV, show them something appropriate to their age.

Originally posted by Schrödinger
I am from Denmark, here are some examples of what I am talking about.
There is no racial slur, I promise you that, the rest you can decide for yourself!

I will take your word for it, however, some of the programs that were on whe I was younger I would consider inappropriate for children because of their undertones.

I have a theory, and it is only a theory, but I apply it to my kids, and I believe it is working.
Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network etc. stresses the children, they cannot focus and concentrate for longer periods of time, they do not have the ability to immerse themselves, relate and reflect to what is happening.

I tend to agree with your theory that too much of these can be stressing. I also agree that reality television has the same effect. I also think watching people behaving badly can also be an overly negative influence.

reply to post by MGriff


Now absolute false is a bit harsh to say in my opinion.
Because you have the experience of 1 kid, I could swing it right back at you because I have 2 children, ergo according to your own logic, I am more right than you.

So you are saying you have a kid that is 1 year and 9 mths (vs my youngest that is 2 year and 4 mths)
And you are saying that your 1½ year old toddler can count to 10 in Spanish (I assume it is a foreign language to her?) Name the alphabet, identify colors (how many are we speaking, I assume all the base colors?) And count and identify numbers 1-14!
Thats a wonder child, you should get specialists to document this, really I am impressed!
My son who is 7 mths older than your daughter, cannot count in a foreign language, he can count to 2. Does not know the ABC, he can identify most basic colors like, red, blue, green, grey, white, black, yellow! And have a vocabulary of around 1000 words (incl, similar words but with different grammar) and form sentences of 2-3 words!
And the funny part is that he is age appropriate, and we just had a talk with his pedagogue (its a bachelor in kids basically) and they confirmed this. I know we are behind in PITA etc in Denmark because we try (or at least tried, we are seeing a growing trend over here to live up to international standards, which I personally believe is wrong) to let the kids evolve in their own natural pace.

But really that must be a wonder kid, at least according to danish standards. Congrats.
More kids should obviously watch Nickelodeon, they turn toddlers into geniuses :p

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Schrödinger
I am from Denmark, here are some examples of what I am talking about.
There is no racial slur, I promise you that, the rest you can decide for yourself!

I will take your word for it, however, some of the programs that were on whe I was younger I would consider inappropriate for children because of their undertones.

I have a theory, and it is only a theory, but I apply it to my kids, and I believe it is working.
Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network etc. stresses the children, they cannot focus and concentrate for longer periods of time, they do not have the ability to immerse themselves, relate and reflect to what is happening.

I tend to agree with your theory that too much of these can be stressing. I also agree that reality television has the same effect. I also think watching people behaving badly can also be an overly negative influence.

Yes I know what you are talking about, and we had the same undertones over here in the 40-60's, we have a couple of children songs, that are prohibited because of our anti-racism laws! (one song talks about a Negermand thats Nigerman i.e. niger (negro) = black in latin, we cannot sing that today, and I guess its ok, though its wierd since its not racism, just political incorrect)

If you had asked me 5 years ago about violence in movies etc, I would have said that it has no effect. Now I would agree with you, there is a connection with the increased violence and immorality we see, and the more and more hardcore media! I am positive on this connection!


EDIT: wtf it censors the latin word for black, is this a joke really? I did not put in double g's therefore it is a legit latin word, how can the latin word for black be censored?

reply to post by Schrödinger


"Todays kid programs does nothing but making our kids stressed and destroys their concentration and learning abilities."

This is what I was responding to with my initial post, not the validity of the program in teaching kids everything. Certainly because my child has had success does not mean it is perfect for every family.

Your above comment is absolutely false, as your blanket statement is easily refuted by the experience I've had. It does to more than what you said, and thereby cannot be classified as only stressing kids and destroying their concentration. I apologize for not being clear as to what I was citing.

reply to post by Azi



Yes. This is exactly what is happening.
Symbols. Brainwashing.
You won't even know what hit ya.

Originally posted by MGriff
reply to post by Schrödinger

 

"Todays kid programs does nothing but making our kids stressed and destroys their concentration and learning abilities."

This is what I was responding to with my initial post, not the validity of the program in teaching kids everything. Certainly because my child has had success does not mean it is perfect for every family.

Your above comment is absolutely false, as your blanket statement is easily refuted by the experience I've had. It does to more than what you said, and thereby cannot be classified as only stressing kids and destroying their concentration. I apologize for not being clear as to what I was citing.

Ah ha, so it is my formulation you have a beef with?
Especially the part "does nothing BUT"?
If so, I agree, it was a definitive argument, and was worded poorly, bear with me.

What if I rephrase it like this; "Todays kid programs seems to make our kids stressed and destroys their concentration and learning abilities."

Would that be a viable postulate to you?

Also, do not think I am patronizing you, you really have a gifted child, and while I disagree with you giving all the credit to Nickelodeon, I think you should be proud, because in Scandinavian standards your child is extremely gifted.
And does it really matter then, if Nickelodeon is to blame? I highly doubt it, and would rather form an argument around, you the parents, and simple genetics!
Never would I give credit for my child talents to a TV Channel, but each to his own I guess.

Originally posted by The_Final
I think we should be more worried about the actual programs than the commericials. But honestly why would some secret society spam kids their symbol? In order to do what?

They do it to let their other members know that they are in control of it.

Nickelodeon is no different from Disney. Run by the same people.

reply to post by Schrödinger


I'm not saying that everything she has learned resulted from Nick. I am saying that she learned to count to ten, at the same time I was trying to teach her to count to five. She did not respond to me, but she did to some of the programming. I have never gone over Spanish numbers with her, and she knows one through ten. I've taught her shapes, colors, animals and her ABCs with flash cards. So I have played a major part in it, and I'm simply trying to say it can complement parent teaching, not wholly replace it.

What happened was that she responded very well to the praise we gave her when she first counted from one to ten, and I feel like that opened her up to learning more, seeking that gratification through our praise. While sitting your child in front of Nickelodeon is certainly not the best way to teach a child, it can have some uses. Also, we watch Nick Jr., not Nickelodeon proper. Nick Jr.'s commercials are a moose and a bird teaching, there are no corporate commercials, it is all learned programming.

I'm not disagreeing that too much TV isn't bad for your child, I'm saying that it can complement your efforts to teach your child in some cases. It's use on a smaller scale is where I disagree with the generalization that it is all bad under any circumstances.