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Originally posted by billybob
they are the cuban people. they are not castro. the people want out because they have been battered by the states for decades.
I'm from the UK. During the second world war we had quite severe rationing. It didn't end until 1952.
Truth is the hardships in Cuba are caused by an undeclared war with the greatest power on earth at the moment. The USA is not the answer it's the cause of the problem and the UN have critised US policy in Cuba for the last fifty years. Only UN security council membership has saved the US from more explicit condemnation.
The Cuba you want is ruled by a US puppet and is subservient to the USA in every way.
How long have you been living in the USA. Long enough to go through the school system I bet.
You know that there are some Afro Carib descendents in the UK who think that the UK taxpayer should pay them compensation for slavery, even though we were the first great power to make it illegal, a decision which was the beginning of the end of slavery.
"... Truth is you don't want a free Cuba you want a US puppet government which would look after your interests at the expense of the majority of Cubans who actually live there. (Just like the Iraqi Expats) and you view history through that prism.
Originally posted by billybob
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the people want out because they have been battered by the states for decades.
i don't think it's right to blame castro for the financial attack that has been perpetrated on the PEOPLE of his country.
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Originally posted by billybob
you think castro goes hungry? no. it is the people who suffer when leaders 'punish' leaders.
Originally posted by billybob
i think castro has iron cohones, and i admire that. i think he believes he's doing the right thing. i don't know enough about the revolution to say whether i like him or not.
Originally posted by billybob
che guevara liked him. i'm reading his biography, right now. interesting dude.
Originally posted by billybob
i just don't live in a black and white world, like some people.
like typical hegelians, you try and polarise every argument to an extreme, to preach hatred and dissent.
have fun with that.
"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary. These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution!
The real story of Ernesto Guevara's place in history, and the deaths for which he was responsible, is told by Cuban journalist Luis Ortega, who knew Guevara personally, in his book Yo Soy El Che, by Daniel James in Che Guevara: A Biography and by Armando M. Lago, author of the soon to be released Cuba: The Human Cost of Social Revolutions.
Lago lists by name fourteen people personally murdered by Guevara while fighting in the Sierra Madre as a part of Fidel Castro's 1956-57 guerilla struggles to seize power in Cuba. Once in power, Guevara became one of the central figures of Castro's dictatorship with 10 confirmed ordered executions in Santa Clara in 1959 and another 156 at La Cabana Fortress Prison. He was also responsible for several thousand more during the first years of the revolution. Guevara was also responsible for those killed in the guerrilla uprisings he sponsored in Latin America, and in which he participated after he had left Cuba. No one knows how many people Guevara personally killed, ordered killed, or who died as a result of his actions. Lago believes the number for Cuba alone is 4,000.
It is said that Guevara was proud of shooting his enemies in the back of the head. He was also vocal in his hatred, and candid in his use of hate as a driving force. "Hatred is an element in the struggle," he said, "unbending hatred for the enemy which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations…." "A people without hate cannot triumph against the adversary." During the Cuban missile crisis Guevara pushed for war, since a nuclear holocaust, he believed, would purge the world of evil and make way for the rise of a new and better order.
I have sworn before a picture of our old, much lamented comrade Stalin [who had died in March] that I will not rest until I see these capitalist octopuses annihilated
Originally posted by billybob
i just don't live in a black and white world, like some people.
like typical hegelians, you try and polarise every argument to an extreme, to preach hatred and dissent.
have fun with that.
Originally posted by chrisxpark
So.... Just one question. I was just wondering whether you believe that the embargo of cuba should be maintained?
oh and also.. wow is it really true that castro uses agents to beat up people if they protest? I never knew about this. Your article is so enlightening. I was so naive about this kind of thing before. Thanks.