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Originally posted by dbates
Yes, Julius Africanus was from the second century, but he's citing Thallus who wrote this at about A.D. 52 thus I quoted him as "citing Thallus' works from A.D. 52".
Originally posted by spamandham
Regarding Thallus, obviously we do not have his works and very little is known of him either.
In other words, this provides us with no useful information.
Originally posted by dbates
The irony of this whole situation is that the Bible (IMO) is probably an excellent source and very reliable. I say this based on some of the fulfilled prophecy from the Old Testament which we know at least some of it (Isaiah for instance) is verifiably authentic back beyond 2,000 years.
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Of course Jesus exists. He lives down the block with his wife Juanita, and their lively baby Miguel. If he doesn't exist, then who borrowed my lawnmower? Answer me that smart guys.
Originally posted by MacDonagh
What I've learnt has finally blown my head off.
My head hurts. I'm going to lie down for a bit.
Originally posted by spamandham
Originally posted by dbates
The irony of this whole situation is that the Bible (IMO) is probably an excellent source and very reliable. I say this based on some of the fulfilled prophecy from the Old Testament which we know at least some of it (Isaiah for instance) is verifiably authentic back beyond 2,000 years.
I stand ready to debunk whichever prophecy you wish to discuss. There simply are no non-trivial prophecies which can be verified to have actually happened that were not caused to happen by those who believed in them. An example is the resurrection of the nation of Israel in 1948, an deliberate act by zionists. If that is the fulfillment of prophecy, then Theodore Herzl is the messiah.
Originally posted by queenannie38
I don't mind sticking my own proverbial neck out in discussing them...however I do not seek to prove anything to a professed skeptic such as yourself--it is not possible.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
anything that is true can be proven through some sort of logical argument or the presentation of evidence to support the claim.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
now you're getting into solipism, and that's not what we're discussing here. stop bringing up straw men, and give me some passages from documents written in the time of the supposed life of jesus that mention him.