Is It Possible That President Bush Will Be President Again?

Bush absolutely, even if there were some way to manage it, will NOT serve another term.

Why not? Two reasons--

1) His popularity is simply too low for him to be effective.
2) All of his "opposition" has already been bought and paid for by the same people who bought and paid for him. Republican or Democrat, the next president will simply carry on their work, as every previous one has.


Personally, I suspect that the next president, defying all current predictions, will be a Democrat. This will serve to throw the Republicans off balance and will fill the Democrats with such a sense of empowerment that they, blinded by their partisanship just as Bush's supporters are blinded by theirs, will reflexively defend whatever abuses s/he foists on this country.

That's the way the game is played...

You obviously know things about high political offices of which the average American public hasnt a clue.

Watching the postings on here..many of them ..many of these people seem to think they are rooting for a real team..or different teams. They think this is a real competitive game. Just like on the grid iron..just like on the diamond..the soccer field.

How did you manage to escape this virus.????How did you innoculate yourself????

Do you often catch flack from these people thinking this is a real spectator sport.???

Curious here about this.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Notice that the end of his presidency is never mentioned by him?

Never ever. I think he will have to be dragged out of the White House kicking and screaming in 2008.

Seriously, all he has to do is cancel the election process due to "terrorism" or Police state and he stays. So many emergencies and only ONE macho man can do the job.

The President may stept down in 08 however another puppet of the corperate oligarchy will be installed under the gueise of an election; with all the pomp and circumstance, flag waving, bunting, marching bands and just general patrotic fervor that adds to the air of legitimacy.

When the corperations that control the voting machines are bought and paid for by the people being elected, somehow in my mind deminishes the results. How bout you? I have no faith in the electorial process of America anymore.

Even on the state and local level, elections really dont reflect the will of the people. Most of the time I see the "developers" buying the election for their man.

If voting really made any difference it would be illegal!!!!!

[edit on 5-12-2005 by whaaa]

[edit on 5-12-2005 by whaaa]

Originally posted by dgtempe
Notice that the end of his presidency is never mentioned by him?

Never ever. I think he will have to be dragged out of the White House kicking and screaming in 2008.

Seriously, all he has to do is cancel the election process due to "terrorism" or Police state and he stays. So many emergencies and only ONE macho man can do the job.

I sure as hell hope that as of right now, the last thing on our Presidents mind is what he'll be doing in 2008. How many other Presidents started talking about their retirement so far ahead of time. If he was talking about it, don't you think that might lead people to think he doesn't want to be there?

Originally posted by orangetom1999
You obviously know things about high political offices of which the average American public hasnt a clue.

Watching the postings on here..many of them ..many of these people seem to think they are rooting for a real team..or different teams. They think this is a real competitive game. Just like on the grid iron..just like on the diamond..the soccer field.

How did you manage to escape this virus.????How did you innoculate yourself????

Do you often catch flack from these people thinking this is a real spectator sport.???

Curious here about this.

Thanks,
Orangetom

There's a BIG difference.... The republican party is an American party; the democrats have changed over the years to a Euro-Socialist prty, which is completely the opposite of what they used to be, and is also the opposite of the ideals America was founded upon.
Amore scary difference, is that the Sommunist party of the USA has voted for / backed democrats for many, many years. The "progressive" party and politicians are much worse, but all 200+ of them are democrats, too.

Originally posted by whaaa
The President may stept down in 08 however another puppet of the corperate oligarchy will be installed under the gueise of an election; with all the pomp and circumstance, flag waving, bunting, marching bands and just general patrotic fervor that adds to the air of legitimacy.

When the corperations that control the voting machines are bought and paid for by the people being elected, somehow in my mind deminishes the results. How bout you? I have no faith in the electorial process of America anymore.

Even on the state and local level, elections really dont reflect the will of the people. Most of the time I see the "developers" buying the election for their man.

[edit on 5-12-2005 by whaaa]

This isn't just an american idea, as far as backers go. Kerry went to the Rodes college in Britain, whose only existance is to nurture "new world order" candidates. Clinton went to germany and was tutored by an avowed communist, and also... as a "C" student, got a scholarship to Rhodes.

Hmmm... the corporate oligarchy... those nasty people who create most all of the jobs, and which 54% of america is invested in?

A "corporation" is a legal fiction. It is simply a whole lot of "little people" who work for a given company, the express concern of which is to provide goods or services, and jobs, to many other people, all of whom use the money they make to provide for their families, donate to charities, etc.

[edit on 5-12-2005 by zappafan1]

Originally posted by Bob LaoTse
Bush absolutely, even if there were some way to manage it, will NOT serve another term.

Why not? Two reasons--

1) His popularity is simply too low for him to be effective.
2) All of his "opposition" has already been bought and paid for by the same people who bought and paid for him. Republican or Democrat, the next president will simply carry on their work, as every previous one has.


Personally, I suspect that the next president, defying all current predictions, will be a Democrat. This will serve to throw the Republicans off balance and will fill the Democrats with such a sense of empowerment that they, blinded by their partisanship just as Bush's supporters are blinded by theirs, will reflexively defend whatever abuses s/he foists on this country.

That's the way the game is played...

As for popularity, that depends on which polls you read.

Going back to the dems? I disagree, because Americans have finally seen what the dems plans are for America, and the "the people" don't like it one bit.

Originally posted by enhancedesign
infowars.net...

This is an editorial piece arguing the Clintons and Bushes are more allies than enemies and I find that viewpoint worth considering. The Clinton-Bush connection is important to note since they've been our consecutive leaders and Hillary will likely run for President in 2008. To continue the supposed "regime" in 2008, I would guess the conspiracy would be to get a president elected who is allied with the Clinton-Bush backers. Doesn't matter if the next president is Democrat or Republican. Hillary vs. John McCain or Rudolph Giuliani perhaps? I could see that happening.

So to reiterate my earlier post, I find it unlikely that Bush would do something drastic to retain power in 2008. There is no need for this as it's more likely that his backers and allies will work together behind-the-scenes to get one of their own elected and continue their agenda.

Also for your consideration, a poll related to 2008 potential presidential candidates:
www.pollingreport.com...

[edit on 2-12-2005 by enhancedesign]

The reason Clinton/Bush appear to be allies goes back to when Bush Sr. was president and Clinton was still governor or Arkansas.

The real reason Bush Junior, and many republicans, go along with so many of the dems. ideas, is those 600 republica (and some dem) FBI files Bill and Hillary illegally had at the White House. Which is exactly the reason Clinton never went on trial; it certainly wasn't because of lack of evidence.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by zappafan1
The use of the word "regime" cracks me up.

regime
n 1: the organization that is the governing authority of a
political unit;
That pretty much describes whatever party is in power.

Then why does it crack you up?

Benevolent Heretic: You are correct, the conservatives and "The People" did work hard to get into power, but remember, too, that the Demokrauts were in power for 40 years, and really screwed thing up.

I guess that's a matter of opinion. I was a lot better off a few years ago than I am now. My husband's job was sent overseas and we just learned that our property taxes went up $200. All our taxes are higher. Economically, we were in a LOT better shape before this administration.

Reply: Maybe an opinion, true, but there are millions of families who who have more income because of lower taxes. Most of them are those who have children, and are in the low-to-middle- income tax bracket. You'll never hear a democrat tell the people that "... it's your money, and you should get to keep more of it."

Property taxes are local, not federal.

Most jobs are sent overseas because of the high taxes on corporations here, and also because the companies can find better educated people over there... wherever "there" might be.

We're at war. Terrorism is rampant around the world. The people of the United States are totally divided and furious at each other. And most of them are furious at the administration.

Reply: We've been at war somewhere for longer than you or I have been alive. It's because Americas job is to spread liberty and freedom around the world. Truly democratic countries don't go to war with one another. Also, in the worlds history, lasting peace has only come about following a victory.

Were divided because there are those, like Jesse Jackson, whose only job is to keep people divided, otherwise they'd be out of work. Other divisions are because more and more people have seen what 50 years of the democratic parties goals and programs has cost all of us, and don't like what their future is for America.

There are legions of those who hate the Bill of Rights and the Constutution. One of those battles right now is the assault on Christianity... especially in schools.

I guess it all depends on your point of view.

It's "The People" who are behind, not the "Bush machine", but the Conservative agenda, which basically means being behind the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Why are so many people against that?

I don't know of anyone who is against the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

enhancedesign - That poll is scary! Hillary or Rudy? Ugh! I sure hope a lot changes before then! Yuck!

Originally posted by Hal9000
Bush doesn't need to be re-elected. The Republican party will try to hold on to power with someone else, like Jebb Bush. The politicians are just puppets for the powers that be who really run things.

If Jebb Bush were to be elected, just think George would be right there behind him helping him run things. To me that is a very terrifying thought of what our future just might hold.

Originally posted by CelticHeart

If Jebb Bush were to be elected, just think George would be right there behind him helping him run things. To me that is a very terrifying thought of what our future just might hold.

Not really. George isn't even running things now-- that's the point. There would be no need for him to "be right there behind" Jeb, since he's only a figurehead anyway, as Jeb would be, and as any other potential president would be. If Jeb were to run and win, most of the same power-drunk scumbags who are manipulating Dubya would simply take over manipulating him. If another candidate runs and wins, all that would mean is that there would possibly be a slightly different set of power-drunk scumbags.

Originally posted by Bob LaoTse

Originally posted by CelticHeart

If Jebb Bush were to be elected, just think George would be right there behind him helping him run things. To me that is a very terrifying thought of what our future just might hold.

Not really. George isn't even running things now-- that's the point. There would be no need for him to "be right there behind" Jeb, since he's only a figurehead anyway, as Jeb would be, and as any other potential president would be. If Jeb were to run and win, most of the same power-drunk scumbags who are manipulating Dubya would simply take over manipulating him. If another candidate runs and wins, all that would mean is that there would possibly be a slightly different set of power-drunk scumbags.

Drunk scumbags..... You talking about Kennedy?

Originally posted by dgtempe
Notice that the end of his presidency is never mentioned by him?

Never ever. I think he will have to be dragged out of the White House kicking and screaming in 2008.

Seriously, all he has to do is cancel the election process due to "terrorism" or Police state and he stays. So many emergencies and only ONE macho man can do the job.

...... kind of like the Clintons.... who wouldn't hand over the keys to government (publically-owned) buildings?
Or (running and screaming) because they had to give back much of the $300,000-plus worth of stuff from the White House... writing grafitti on the walls..... destroying government (publically-owned) property?

ok...thanks for all of your opinions. I've read all of them.
Now, here is another question:
Was President George Bush Sr Directer of the CIA?

Originally posted by MagicaRose
I don't know if there is a thread like this or not. If so Please move it Mods.
For a long time I have felt that President Bush will be the only President we will ever have again.
I think I heard not long ago that they were going to try to pass a law where a President can serve more than 2 terms.
Did that law pass?
Does anyone else think this also?
I would just like to know your opinions.

This would take a Constitutional Amendment which would need to be ratified by 2/3 of the States. It is extremely doubtful that this will become reality, they don't even have enough votes in the Senate to get the Amendment to the States for ratification as that also requires a 2/3 vote.

The only other way to do it is a Constitutional Convention, where the States get together create and ratify the Amendment theirselves, also very unlikely.

I thought it was possible at first, i read into a theory that suggested he had a loop hole cause he apparently didn't win the first election. But djohnsto77 explained to me that the theory was wrong and it is highly unlikely he could changed the rules.

The only good thing about Bush getting elected again, is the fact that he can't get elected again.

His baby brother may try to run, but he won't get far.

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
His baby brother may try to run, but he won't get far.

He ruled himself out.
I recall him saying in an interview he never wanted to run for president. I believe he has a very negivative view of Washington.

Originally posted by MagicaRose
ok...thanks for all of your opinions. I've read all of them.
Now, here is another question:
Was President George Bush Sr Directer of the CIA?

Yes- he was in fact, I never knew that.
George H. W. Bush-January 30, 1976–January 20, 1977

en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 5/19/2007 by Leyla]