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Numbers to predict events?

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posted on Nov, 22 2005 @ 01:32 PM
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I know a few of you have looked deeply into this would love to hear personal thoughts.

I am always finding stuff that seems interesting but is it just a play on numbers or is there something more to it?

Here is what I saw with the biggest terrorist events

9-11-2001 (adds to 5)
254th day (*adds to 11)
111 days left to the year

7-7-2005 (*adds to 3)
188th day of the year *(adds to 8)
125 days left to the year

11-9-2005 (*adds to 9)
313th day of the year *(adds to 7)
177 days left to the year

7-7-05 to 11-9-05 is 125 days apart (*adds to 8)
9-11-01 to 11-9-05 is 1619 days apart (*adds to 8)
9-11-01 to 7-7-05 is 1394 days apart *(adds to 8)


I have done this with natural disasters and came up with 8s as well.

There is something with the numbers 9 and 11 I don['t know what.

The whole point of this is to establish a numerical pattern to predict future events. If you have seen my other post on Bush 6 you can see some odd things for sure but there is a missing link.

*when I say adds to when you add up a date until you are left with a single number.



posted on Nov, 26 2005 @ 12:59 PM
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7-7-05 to 11-9-05 is 125 days apart (*adds to 8)
9-11-01 to 11-9-05 is 1619 days apart (*adds to 8)
9-11-01 to 7-7-05 is 1394 days apart *(adds to 8)




*when I say adds to when you add up a date until you are left with a single number.


why have you paired each date the way u have? if this works shouldn't it work however you pair them, and with the other big terrorist attacks?

My geuss is that either you have tried them and have failed and left them out or have just got luck with the dates you picked, and way in which you added them.

Give me a set of numbers and soem time and im sure i can make them into something that has a meaning.



posted on Nov, 26 2005 @ 07:43 PM
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Let me take a shot at the argument so far.

While I (naturally) do not accept that numerology is a discipline with predictive power, it does seem that there is a group of decision makers using a numerological code to plan significant events. This may be out of a genuine belief in numerology, or as a "calling card" of a particular organization, or maybe even for fun. At the moment, I lean toward the calling card explanation, and I think the calling card is used mostly for intimidation purposes, sort of like the Black Hand of the early 20th century.

Whatever the motivation, it seems that the roots of the system are 3 and 11. This is probably related to 3 * 11 = 33, the traditional age of Christ at the crucifiction, and also the number of degrees in the Scottish and Egyptian masonic rites.

In the early 80s, a fundamentalist author published a book claiming that Jesus was born on September 11th of the year 3 BC. Note the 3 (year), 9 (month, 3*3), and the 11 (day). This was widely discussed well before 9/11/01 (for example groups.google.ca... 5d4f)

That date for the birth of Jesus may be the inspiration behind the 3/11 system, or it may be an indication that it was already in use by a group by the early 80s. I will discuss below some tentative evidence that it may have been in use even earlier.

Here are the main data points related to the use of the 3/11 system since 1990:

9/11/90: In the wake of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, GHW Bush gives his famous "New World Order" speech in Congress (bushlibrary.tamu.edu...). This speech was delivered 11 years day for day before 9/11/01.

9/11/94 (in fact 9/12/94 at 1:49 AM, but on the night of 9/11): A small plane crashes into the White House. Given operational constraints, the difficulty of getting someone to pull this off at a given day and time, could easily have been planned for 9/11/94. In fact, Corder took off in his plane at 11:55 on 9/11. Note that the hour is 11 and the minutes are a multiple of 11. Interestingly, later that fall a man shot at the White House on October 29th (2+9 =11).

9/11/01: Attacks on NYC, DC, and the Anthrax incident begins. Flight 11, flight 77, the two towers look like 11, etc. Covered ad nauseam. Probably intended as the PNAC's "new Pear Harbour", necessary to convince the american public to support the United States' new mission.

3/11/04: Madrid. Again, within operational constraints, can be considered to have happened 911 days after 9/11/01. Taking into account the time difference between NYC and Madrid, the events are within hours of being 911 days apart.

3/11/05: Federal judge and several others shot dead in a Georgia courtroom. Two pentagon mail sorting facilities detect Anthrax. Exactly 1 year after Madrid. Probably intended to intimidate the Judicial Branch and the Pentagon.

Possible earlier calling cards:

9/11/41: Pentagon ground breaking ceremony. Construction of the center of American power is launched on 9/11. Either this, in combination with the fortuitous later date for the birth of Christ is the origin of the 3/11 system, or it is one of its earliest recorded instances.

23/11/63: JFK assassination. This one is problematic. 6+3=9, the month is 11, but the day is one away from a multiple of 11. merely suggestive.

5/6/68: RFK assassination. 5 + 6 = 11.

(interestingly, MLK does not fit the pattern at all)

5/11/81 and 22/11/81: Ford assassination attempts. Both in September, one of them on the 22nd, a multiple of 11, both of them by women (highly unusual). Some convincing intimidation, if it is.

30/3/81: Reagan assassination attempt. This is the earliest "solid" lead. 30 + 3 = 33, 8+1 = 9. It is tempting to think someone planned it that way.

Throughout history, powerful organizations have used such signals to intimidate and increase their control. Some of these symbols were widely known and feared by the public (like the Black Hand), and some were intended only for a select few aware of their meaning. I propose that an organization is currently using a numeroligical system based on the numbers 3 and 11 to mark the significance of certain events for those who know how to interpret the signals.



posted on Nov, 27 2005 @ 02:59 AM
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I am not familar with other large one after 9-11 I just went off of that. I am not sure what it is called when you do continous addition to single digit...maybe some sort of geometria study.

Anyway of course you can find things that won't match as you can find ones that will the point of the study is finding a pattern in things and going from there. I mean we can't deny there is not patterens in all activity life,growthdeath,etc The key is learning it for better use to the world.

Yes like I said a play on numbers can be easy to fall into but I never leave anything unturned just in case. Same results with 8 and natural disasters as well.




Originally posted by manta


7-7-05 to 11-9-05 is 125 days apart (*adds to 8)
9-11-01 to 11-9-05 is 1619 days apart (*adds to 8)
9-11-01 to 7-7-05 is 1394 days apart *(adds to 8)




*when I say adds to when you add up a date until you are left with a single number.


why have you paired each date the way u have? if this works shouldn't it work however you pair them, and with the other big terrorist attacks?

My geuss is that either you have tried them and have failed and left them out or have just got luck with the dates you picked, and way in which you added them.

Give me a set of numbers and soem time and im sure i can make them into something that has a meaning.




posted on Nov, 27 2005 @ 07:06 AM
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Why would these people hide this code as a "calling card"? It just seems too complex.

There are so many *codes* in the dates of these terrorist events that it just doesnt seem right. People have pointed out that 9/11 is the number of the emergancy services in the US, that is more my kinda *hidden code* simple so that everyone can see it and make the link all on their own.

However many of these codes depend very much on the format the date is in, while yours works fine and is all done in teh same format etc, i dont think i will ever be convinced my something like this as it doesnt seem like *they* would hide a code deep inside the date like this, what could it prove?

Maybe it is just so they can say "look we did it all those years ago, and here is the proof"



posted on Nov, 27 2005 @ 10:28 AM
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Yes it is still up in the air as far as source. I mean its fairly obvious there are patterens appear. Its very interesting to say the least. I really would love to know if it is decided by man or fate etc. Like maybe in a super natural sense bad things happen on a giviing dates. Signs and such from a higher power.

Last night I though about the number eleven and I figured if used by man it can also be an insult to god stating they are above God. They have figured out his code and think they will beat him as God['s number is 10 or completness. Again terrorists are terrorists so I doubt they are saying they are above God but I donnu.

there's something there for sure.

No help last night I watched the movie PI sheesh the number 216 one of many thoughts is this

2 (creation other than god's self
1 (return to God
6 (Evil Ending

MISC;
A B C D E F G H I
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

IAA = 9-11?
Islamic Action Association
Islamic Army of Aden
Israel Airport Authority

en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 27-11-2005 by japike]

[edit on 27-11-2005 by japike]



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 02:44 AM
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Maybe you won't question the system as much with these using the same method. Please note 5 seems to be coming up as pattern on something ending 911 2001 adds to 5 , 365 days a year adds to five etc. Anyway same simple method being used here with addition and letters. If this isn't proof of God I don't know what would be to you or to see down the road. I believe these embeded messages to be more of a hard proof for people who tend to doubt. God didn't only put himself in the Hebrew alphabet. Also you will notice the 8 which is obvious I hope and also the one as I see as a return point. You either return to point as God is one before there was two etc etc

A B C D E (this is the letter/number method)
1 2 3 4 5


A L L A H
1 12 12 1 8
34=7

I S L A M
9 19 12 1 13
54=9

F R E E M A S O N
6 18 5 5 13 1 19 15 14
96=15=6


mars
13 1 18 19
51=6

ALIEN
1 12 9 5 14 = 41 = 5


E N D
5 14 4 = 23 = 5
D A Y S
4 1 26 19 =50 = 5
= 73 = 10 =1

C O D E
3 15 4 5 = 27 = 9


G O D
7 15 4
= 24 = 8

T O R A H
20 15 18 1 8
= 62 =8

S I X
19 9 25 = 8
H U N D R E D
8 21 14 4 18 5 4 = 74 = 11 = 2
S I X T Y
19 9 25 20 26 = 99
S I X
19 9 25 = 8
117 = 9



I 9
AM 1,14
24=6

J E S U S
10 5 19 21 19 74 11 2
C H R I S T
3 8 18 9 19 20 77 14 5
7 7 7


S A T A N
19 1 20 1 14 = 55 = 10 = 1

H E L L
8 5 12 12 = 10 =1

H E A V E N
8 5 1 22 5 14 = 55 =10 = 1


M O S E S
13 15 19 5 19 = 71 = 8


With the above said take me as a fool for thinking end of days will envolve some aliens which are demons that the people and or gov't belived in and was nothing more than a demonic belief. As when you see an alien you do not think of God.

The question is, is it in deed to late?

[edit on 28-11-2005 by japike]



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 11:10 AM
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I am sorry, im sure your last post is ment yto prove something but i cant work it out


maybe im just too tired, sorry!!!!!



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 02:36 PM
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No no I posted poorly last night. I was too tired as well


I was doing the same system like each letter in our Alphabet asigned with a generic numeric value eg A=1. So patterns seem to emerge 1 seems to be a return point you go to hell or heaven. 5 makes a pattern of an ending point. Biblical value of 8,Jesus associated with 7s as above.

Freemason=6

I will do more with only major words biblical or gov't related to see if pattern continues.



posted on Nov, 28 2005 @ 02:55 PM
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Ah yes i see. I do see a sort of pattern their, just seems still to be rather random.

Why do these things work in english, what about other languages. Do these work in Hebrew and still comeup with the same numbers or maybe different numbers but still in the same pattern?

I still can't say im convinced about this being proof of God, why would it be so simple and what use can it possibly serve? Something like the Bible Codes somehow seems more realistic to me, or atleast more like a system that would be used to comunicate information to us.

I am more than willing to be shown more evedance though, so feel free to post more.




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