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Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
Pump-action shotguns are the single-best close-quarters weapon on earth, better than any smg. You can put more lead in the air with a pump than you can an M60, if you try hard enough.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
The sea is not close quarters and a firefight can start very far out.
BTW the AK is not large and heavy and awkward when compared to a shotgun. I have own both trust me.
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
So have I. and AK 74s are not AK 47s. An AK 47 is very much heavier and more awkward to use than a 12-gauge pump with a pistol grip, and less controllable if you attempt to fire it without shouldering it.
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
And notice that I said single best "close-quarters" weapon. ie for use once the pirates are aboard
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
And if that one is made of gold then it would indeed be heavy.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
I guess you could always sail some where eles like you suggested but piracy extends to the Caribbean a very popular spot for cruise ships.The Coast of the US and Canada are pretty much pirate free thanks to the coast guards.
[edit on 18-11-2005 by ShadowXIX]
Originally posted by sardion2000
Any and all forms of piracy should be eradicated. By force.
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
Ship's crew are trained to service the boat's and their customer's needs. Defence of the ship comes second. Even if you are ship's security, how often do you get to run drills? You're at sea too much. Then, shotguns are definitely the way to go. Especially given a shotgun's much lesser penetration at medium ranges when compared with a bullet, even a 9mill.
Originally posted by snafu7700
someone in another thread had an idea about this. he had alot of other really bad ideas (which cost him some points and a red flag), so this one was kind of overlooked, but i think it has some merit:
take a civilian cruise liner, fill it up with marines with heavy weaponry including shoulder launched missiles, and prowl pirate infested waters. when they attack, slaughter them. i dont think it would take too long for the pirates to decide that they might do better in another endeavor.
as for the terrorists, you'll never really find a good way to stop them. as was said earlier, there just isnt a good way to stop someone who has a little bit of ingenuity and is determined to blow him/herself up. just have to be a vigilant as possible.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Ah a Trogan horse snafu7700 A interesting concept and I think Sun Tzu would be proud of the tactic. Make a enemy think you are weak when you are infact strong.
It would also work with a merchant ship a favorite target of pirates. That could be very effective in Pirate hot spots around the world