NEWS: Top Level Security To Protect Rumsfelds Australian Tour

Several main streets in the capital city of Adelaide will tomorrow be locked down for the visit of US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Protesters have been pre-warned that they will be arrested if they protest and do not leave the area when told to by police. Secret service officials from the US and Canberra have been scouring the city for the last 6 months in preparation and all SA Police people preparing on going on long service leave have been asked to withhold until the Rumsfeld visit.



I think it's ridiculous. This is an in-your-face piece of key evidence of how free speech no longer exists and the big bullying gang of government will proceed to arrest you for speaking out. Even though there have been tens of thousands of Adelaide people protesting against the Iraq war the government chooses to ignore these democratic expressions and literally and physically 'run away' from protesters and their opinions (as mentioned in the article, with all government officials being locked out of their offices and being given the day off). The reason why people like Rumsfeld choose to ignore the mass protests is because they EVIDENTLY have their own agenda, and don't care about the people's. Novus Ordo Seclorum baby.

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I think it would reflect poorly on the nation of Australia if the US Secretary of Defense were to be assassinated while attending a state function. I don't think that it is unreasonable for the authorities to request some accommodation by the general public. It sounds to me like everyone has been forwarned.

Originally posted by sugeshotcha
I think it's ridiculous. This is an in-your-face piece of key evidence of how free speech no longer exists and the big bullying gang of government will proceed to arrest you for speaking out. Even though there have been tens of thousands of Adelaide people protesting against the Iraq war the government chooses to ignore these democratic expressions and literally and physically 'run away' from protesters and their opinions (as mentioned in the article,.

How did increased security for a high-level conference take away your freedom of speech?

Remember, freedom of speeech does not include the duty of the gov't. or anybody, to listen to you.

with all government officials being locked out of their offices and being given the day off

No, it offered them the day off if they didn't want to deal with the protesters. There's a big difference. And, I think it was a nice gesture.

The reason why people like Rumsfeld choose to ignore the mass protests is because they EVIDENTLY have their own agenda, and don't care about the people's. Novus Ordo Seclorum baby.

No, it is because he cannot and will not allow protestors to dictate when and where he will go.

Increased security is a given when top-level officials visit. As a matter of fact, increased security is necessary for some gov't officials to show their face in their own country.

This submission has been screwed up. The author needs to add back the "(submission) (news) " to the title so it can be voted on properly.

I understand the need for security and I understand the need for protest when things go wrong. A happy medium would be nice. Grady's right, if good old rumsfeld was assassinated on our soil it would be bad bad for us and the "free world". The right to protest should not be taken away completely though, I don't see why they can't set aside a place where protesters are allowed to protest, like a stadium nearby or something that doesn't upset the status quo but still allows the free speech.



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Lets face it, Rumsfeld is not welcome here. If he was they wouldnt have to cordon off Adelaide's CBD. He should take the hint and not bother showing his evil face here.

Australians should have their right to protest left intact. Like May said, there should be an area where the protestors voice can be heard and SEEN. Rumsfeld and the moronic Australian government who invited him here should know that they are working outside the consent and mandate of the public.

Now, now, subz. The Secretary of Defense is there by invitation of your government. The least you can do is show some respect for the guests in your country who are your allies.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Now, now, subz. The Secretary of Defense is there by invitation of your government. The least you can do is show some respect for the guests in your country who are your allies.

I never said he wasn't invited, I said he wasn't welcome. America is our ally, but not the Bush administration. I think there has been no greater strain placed on America's relationship with her allies than the Bush administration.

And I do believe I said myself that he was invited, I guess reading is too much to ask for.

Originally posted by subz
Rumsfeld and the moronic Australian government who invited him here

The likes of Sec Def Rumsfeld are nothing but old hawk hacks who are out to line their own pockets. Just because our corrupt and morally bankrupt regime invited another corrupt and morally bankrupt shill to our shores does not mean we will extend our famous hospitality and friendliness to him.

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"Our special partnership is built on the solid foundation of common values and our shared commitment to a free, secure, and prosperous world."

pfffft

If death is a concern maybe he should just stay where he is

That would more than likely trigger a more positive reaction from the people

Originally posted by Mayet
The right to protest should not be taken away completely though, I don't see why they can't set aside a place where protesters are allowed to protest, like a stadium nearby or something that doesn't upset the status quo but still allows the free speech.

It's just poor planning if they haven't set aside an area for the protestors to gather.

Originally posted by jsobecky

Originally posted by sugeshotcha
I think it's ridiculous. This is an in-your-face piece of key evidence of how free speech no longer exists and the big bullying gang of government will proceed to arrest you for speaking out. Even though there have been tens of thousands of Adelaide people protesting against the Iraq war the government chooses to ignore these democratic expressions and literally and physically 'run away' from protesters and their opinions (as mentioned in the article,.

How did increased security for a high-level conference take away your freedom of speech?

Remember, freedom of speeech does not include the duty of the gov't. or anybody, to listen to you.

with all government officials being locked out of their offices and being given the day off

No, it offered them the day off if they didn't want to deal with the protesters. There's a big difference. And, I think it was a nice gesture.

The reason why people like Rumsfeld choose to ignore the mass protests is because they EVIDENTLY have their own agenda, and don't care about the people's. Novus Ordo Seclorum baby.

No, it is because he cannot and will not allow protestors to dictate when and where he will go.

Increased security is a given when top-level officials visit. As a matter of fact, increased security is necessary for some gov't officials to show their face in their own country.

No, the government is saying protestors will be arrested if they protest. That violates freedom of speech.

Also, Rumsfeld considered a 'war criminal' by many, for numerous international criminal acts committed by himself, is not welcome in Adelaide. He is one of the key illuminati puppets who gives the president permission to go to war (begin take over of the middle east, and re-lighting the 21st version of the Crusades) and originator of the mirror image tyrant orwellian laws (in the name of anti-terrorism), which John Howard subsequently passes through his majority of power upper and lower house in parliament. Working in the far lower echelons of the illuminati pyramid structure of power like us common citizens (journalists, lawyers, marketing salespeople) do these trickerous professionals to make a living and are more so indirectly responsible for their outcomes, whereas people like Donald Rumsfeld are directly responsible for outcomes of mass murder, torture and other things too numerous to mention, by deciding whether to sign on the dotted line or not. Lol. Whilst Rumsfeld was formerly on the board of a company he sold nuclear parts to North Korea, and know he condemns them as terrorists and plants to invade them. Just like the US government sold the Weapons of Mass Destruction (which he used to invade Iraq in the last few years) to Saddam Hussein. Donald Rumsfeld: A man who as CEO of Searle pharmaceutical corporation got his staff to go and work for the FDA to enable the production of a known carcinogen and neurotoxic poison named Aspartame which the FDA had rejected for approval. (And which Australian products disguise and only label as 951 and is in the majority of chewing gum and fresh breath products)

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Hit the blue "ATSNN Confirm Status" button at the top left of this page and it should update it for you. I think because you edited the "(submission)" from your title it stuffed up the process as FredT and Nerdling had to edit it for you.

The latest update on this thread was that police have given in to public outcry and allowed protestors to protest on the footsteps of parliament house in a controlled protest. Different streets have been closed off at different times of the day, and a police helicopter has been circling above my suburbs and the adjoining 3 for the last 4 hours. Rumsfeld went to a meeting in my adjoining suburb today so this could be why. Also, the helicopter is probably trying to determine how many protesting groups there are and film and identify and possible riots or damage that they may do, which police have been afraid of.

from sugeshotcha
No, the government is saying protestors will be arrested if they protest. That violates freedom of speech.

I went back and re-read the article, and could not see where the gov't said that. I see where you said it in your introductory paragraph, but that's all.

If the police have a security zone cordoned off where they do not want protestors to gather, then you must respect that. It still does not take away your free speech; you can go down to the ballpark and protest. You must ask yourself: what is more important,your right to protest, or your right to try to antagonize Mr. Rumsfeld? Believe me, your little protest would not faze him in the least. He did not rise to the position of Secretary of Defense, USA, by being thin-skinned or afraid.