Sex, a four lettered word.

My apologies to the thread author.

I guess i killed your thread. Sorry, but no more replies were coming this way after my post

S E K S

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legislation flying low today, i can smell rain coming

intrepid, I think the most important thing that we're all overlooking from your post is that your wife can probably be easily convinced to do some cool things in the bedroom! Pop on the porn and bring in the hooker, it's time to have some fun!!!!

Originally posted by Rasputin13
intrepid, I think the most important thing that we're all overlooking from your post is that your wife can probably be easily convinced to do some cool things in the bedroom!

We're not overlooking it. The rest of us just don't know intrepid's wife that well.

Jeez, I wish.

It's just that we aren't getting why the gov. has to be in everyones bedroom. Would she prostitute, no, would I solicate, no. The activity isn't the point, the regulation of sex IS the point. Sex is the most natual thing in human society, it's what's put us at the top of the food chain while other species have gone by the wayside. Without it, we'd be long gone.

It's been said before, not by me but I agree, how can stricter regulations on porn make kiddie porn more illegal? It can't.

Are we going to get to the point that people in a bar have to go before an arbiter to let him decide whether the evening you've spent together warrents whether you can have sex? If not, is it illegal?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

And when a guy first meets a girl, he buys her flowers, dinner, takes her nice places and buys her gifts... Do you think he would do ANY of that if not for the prospect of sex?

I must be incredibly naive because the answer I come to is yes. Dinner, flowers, time spent out with eachother. These aren't a drip, drip payment for upcoming sex. What is wrong with people? It is time spent with someone you hold feelings for, time spent together enjoying each others company. It is not on the promise of sex. It is not some kind of silent prostitution contract. Damn, I have known people who I would imagine most of you would try to hurridly shuffle past if you saw them in the street and even they do not see any dates etc. as a downpayment for sex. The men and women who think it is need to take a good hard look at themselves and their cynical view of the world. Such a thing may be particular to your way of life, but not all.

As it happens I do think prostitution should be legalised, well... policed perhaps. But I also think that it should be as popular a career and modern requirement as grave robbing. I honestly don't think that it can ever be harmless. To either party.

This is not a man/woman who enjoys an 'active and stimulating' sex life with a vivacious sexual appetite. These are the unfortunates of society, the homeless, the most downtrodden. Those dependent on drugs and increasingly those who were brought into western countries under false pretences and find themselves modern day slaves trapped in a tragic hellish nightmare.

That is their situation. That someone could gleam pleasure in taking advantage of that...

As for the moral issues with todays sexual behaviour a look as the recent 'Death for Porn Images' shows how sick people are becoming. Morally there is no defence for that case. Decadent, repugnant. There are numerous ways to describe the disgust at the affair but I think just plain 'wrong' sums it up best. Christian or not, the attitude of today especially amongst children and early teens is worrying and perhaps more, saddening. Statistics and the evidence painfully apparent to anyone with children do show an unfortunate trend. The situation is so bad that demand has so far outstripped resources that some clinics in the UK are having to turn people away.

Source Doc
It has to be accepted that the current situation of massive demand for access to sexual health services is not being met. GUM clinics turn away significant number of patients as they simply cannot cope.

Is this a moral concern? Yes, I would have thought it obvious. People's seem to be fostering the idea that sex can be taken as a totally physical thing in isolation and with no emotional cost at all. Rubbish. I honestly believe as I read on ATS only recently that treating sex in such a cold removed way damages all involved.

One of the things which pushed me toward this opinion was the story of a famous porn actress (I presume famous and so experienced in the field) who recently tried to break the world record for the most consecutive sexual partners in one sitting. She called the event to a close before reaching her target and she was in absolute tears.

Why? Why would a professional porn actress be affected so badly? The tears weren't for pyhsical pain.

So, while I advocate the legalising, or as I said perhaps policing of prostitution to ensure the safety of those involved, I do think there is good cause for concern at the increasing view of sex as an emotionally cost free good time.

After all this though and with these concerns whatever occurs between two consenting adults is their own buisness, but I do believe that the present culture is offering the wrong image to those growing up in present day surroundings. There should be an understanding of the difference between the unashamed (by that I mean to a certain extent openess rather than any hushed embarassment stemming the discussion of the topic which only leads to problems) acknowlegement of the enjoyment of sex between adults and the casual disregarding of any consequences.

So there are issues I think need to be addressed. But why would the Bush amnistration focus on this? There are a few reasons that I can think of, unfortunately a genuine moral personal concern does not rank amongst them.

Jak

While I agree that sex is of course one of the most natural things in the world, I do have to wonder if more sex in an already saturated public realm is really such a good thing.

The legalisation of prostitution would IMHO only lead to further problems in society. Making access to sex easier when, through the STD statistics posted above, you can see that the sexual "maturity" of the younger generations seems to apply to their physical bodies only, can only lead to further problems.

Outside of that, the demotion of one of the most wonderful and intimate things two people can share together, to being a service sort of makes me uneasy.

I am no angel. Never will claim to be. I have seen and done enough to know that the penultimate is the intimacy shared with someone you love. When I realised that, I found through solemn contemplation that as a society we are over-exposed to sex. It used to be sex sold things, until they found fear sold more.

Yet here we are contemplating saturating ourselves further? Anyone who has seen the mighty Tom Wolfe talking about the college scene detailed in his new book will know how recently and how cheaply people regard the sexual act. Yet here we are discussing if making it a profession and an almost mechanical act of release, like going to get your hair cut, would solve some of societies ills.

Instead we should be asking why these girls are so easily shanghaied from eastern europe. Make it legal would be the easy option. It's legal in Holland and yet many of these girls can be found being exploited just as much there. Catch them and send them home and all those girls will be back within a few months because you haven't tried to address why they have to sink so low to make a living?

We should also be asking why some men feel the need to visit prostitutes. Even married men. Surrounded all day by media showing the "beautiful people" whom they will never have a chance of having can only lead to disatisfaction and restlessness in what they have. Seeking some sort of excitement with a prostitute can never satisfy them. Watching pornography where the act is reduced to a stale contest, like how many people can ride a bike, will only depress them further.

Do we really want to open that Pandora's box? (N.P.I.)