Sounds Of Hell In German Dig???

lake of fire = glowing abyss.
glowing abyss=shining abzu
shining abzu=working star gate/dimensional portal/rift
the concept of burning dead bodies/trash, put in the junk heap outside the city boundaries, is mingled with the shining abzu (which is the biblical bottomless pit).

the point being, if'n you don't behave, you'll get sent somewhere bad.

part of the problem with our current view on the topic of hell is the translation from hebrew to english.

for example, the word used to describe the serpent in the garden of eden was more about it shining than it being a snake. obviously, it had legs before it was punished by having its legs removed so it wasn't a snake to begin with (taking all this literally to provide an example of what i mean about translation). the word used is just as much related to shining and glowing, as to the idea of it being a reptile. thusly, the conclusion i reached on it was, that it was a shining/glowing reptilian.

same problem with hell references. if you do a comparative analysis on the subject throughout the old and new testaments, you find that hell and words related to it, are different ways of describing something none of us have ever seen before. if we saw it today, we wouldn't recognize it as being the thing described in the bible because of translation variations.

reply to post by Red Rose

I heard the same story about Jaque Custoue while diving in a submersable.

This is some bullsh-t. I doubt that if you were a dig team and you dug dip and heard people screaming that youd just leave. Before you thought about hell, wouldnt your first reaction be to seek the voices out and help them? Few people have the heart to run away from the screams of other people without looking to see whats happening. We as humans just dont leave people like that, especially if its a dig team. You would think that tleast someone would have wanted to go forward. This is bullsh-t. Besides, Im pretty sure that you have to die to go to hell.

reply to post by Red Rose


It was a Russian DIG!!!

I can send you a link that has the full story, and yes it is true. It did happen, There is some kind of cover up on this story to avoid panic. and satin don't want people to know that hell really exists. email to [email protected] and I will send you the link with the actual recording of the sound from and story. and scripture's from the bible to back it up.

all muslims an jews beleave in the torture that will take place in our tombs for the umbleavers or poltheists so be sertain that you will ,get it if you dont beleave in god onness:

reply to post by eyescryforALLAAH07


Good day to you.
Just some questions for you, these I ask when holding the koran and its books up to the bible, the torah.

1. Muslims claim that Jesus did not die. But Mohammad claimed that the gospel is true. All 4 Gospels testify that Jesus Christ was cruicified and Rose from the dead. The bible clearly indicates this over 1000 years before Muhammad and islam. Now Why would your God allow this blaspheme to continue on? I find it a little funny that four differnt men all pose the same story about Christ but with there own personal views.

Proverbs 30:4 (700 B.C.): "Who hath ascended up into heaven or descended? Who hath gathered the wind in His fists? Who hath bound the waters in a garment? Who hath established all the ends of the Earth? What is His name, and what is His son's name, if thou canst tell?"

Psalm 2:11-12) Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

2.Muslims don't beleive the bible to be true, they beleive that Gods words got lost in translation. If this is so then can you explain this simple question for me? Jesus Himself read from Isaiah scroll in a Synagogue in Nazareth and declared it as Scripture (inspired from God) Islam beleives jesus to be a prophet sent from God himself, so Isiah itself islam should find no flaws with.
Muslims should note that nowhere in the Qur'an there is even a suggestion that the Christian Biblical text has been altered or corrupted. The word "tahrif" is never used with reference to the Christian Gospels (Injil). The Qur'an occasionally accuses the Jews of altering their Scripture (like in Surah 5:13); but it never levels this accusation at Christians. It in no way implies that the text of the Gospel of Jesus (Injil) has been corrupted. In fact, the Qur'an attests to the validity of the Christian Gospels, Zabur (Psalms) and the Torah.

3.The Jewish and Christian Bibles were written by "inspired men of God" who immediately committed God's Word to writing. Islam doesn't even have either an original or inspired Qur'an. The Muslim Qur'an was made up supposedly from "memory" from those who supposedly committed the words of Muhammad to memory, and from a few scraps found under a bed. This was originally begun about 15-20 years after Muhammad died at his wife Ayish's home in Medina, and he was lowered into a hole in the ground, where he remains. The compilation was not finished until at least 150 years after Muhammad's death. This "hearsay" argument seriously brings the credibility of the Qur'an into question. i could get more detailed but im quickly running out of room.
So how can you place your faith in a book that just as you say about the bible is corrupt and has lost doctrine.
Muhammad's child wife said this after Muhammad died:
"The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper." wow that sucks so some of the translation got lost in the making....who knows what missing.

References: Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal. vol. 6. page 269; Sunan Ibn Majah, page 626; Ibn Qutbah, Tawil Mukhtalafi 'l-Hadith (Cairo: Maktaba al-Kulliyat al-Azhariyya. 1966) page 310; As-Suyuti, ad-Durru 'l-Manthur, vol. 2. page 13
"What shall we do with her? Muhammad said, "Go away. Bring her back after the baby is born." So they brought her back after the baby was born, and Muhammad said, "Let her go and nurse the child. Bring her back when the child is two years old." So they brought her back, and Muhammad said, "Take the baby from her and kill her." And that is what they did. Reference: "Islam and Terror

reply to post by eyescryforALLAAH07


Contrast the above to what Jesus said about stoning and adultery:
According to the Gospel of John, the Jewish Priests (Pharisees), in an attempt to discredit Jesus, brought a woman charged with adultery before him. The Pharisees reminded Jesus that adultery was punishable by stoning under Law of Moses and challenged Jesus to judge the woman so that they might then accuse him of disobeying the law. Jesus thought for a moment and then replied, “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her.” The people crowded around him were so touched by their own consciences that they departed. When Jesus found himself alone with the woman, he asked her who were her accusers. She replied, “No man, lord.” Jesus then said, “Neither do I condemn thee: go and sin no more.”

The Qur'an claims to be free from internal discrepancies. "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." (Noble Qur'an Surah 4:82)

Islamic scholars in Egypt and Saudi Arabia agree with Muhammad, that lightning and thunder are two angels. Muhammad, the prophet of Muslims, claims that the thunder and the lightning are two of God’s angels—exactly like Gabriel! Baydawi comments on verse 13 of the chapter of the Thunder in the Qur'an:

"Ibn Abbas asked the apostle of God about the thunder. He told him, ‘It is an angel who is in charge of the cloud, who (carries) with him swindles of fire by which he drives the clouds."’
The Qur'an teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by a great many Islamic scholars even today. The Jewish/Christian Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22 and via Job (26:7). Speaking of God in Isaiah 40:22, the Jewish/Christian Bible says; "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. Funny isn't it, that the Bible said the earth was a "circle", even when everyone believed the earth was flat". Job 26:7 says, "He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing".
In many places, the Qur'an alludes to the fact that the earth is flat and its mountains are like poles which create a balance so that the Earth does not tilt. See Qur'an, Suras 79:30 (And the Earth after that He(Allah) FLATTENED it.; and 18:47 (and you will see the earth a leveled plain).

Qur'an Surah 79:30 says:
Wa Al-Arda bada Zalika DaHaaHaa, which means:
And the Earth after that He (Allah) FLATTENED it. With regards to Surah 79:30, " Dahaahaa " does NOT mean " shape like an egg. So if concisely translated, Surah 79:30 should read as “And the Earth after that He (Allah) Spread out like a carpet and Flattened it.”

Why were stars created? In Surah 67:5 we read that the stars were created to be thrown at devils (Shaitans
Hebrews 11:3 speaks of a transcendent creation (from beyond our known dimension) when it states that the universe that we humans can measure and detect was made from that which we cannot measure or detect. At least 12 verses in the Bible makes a claim that the universe is being "stretched out", or expanding - which one would expect were there a "Big Bang" creation. Job 9:8, Isaiah 44:24 and 45:12 repeatedly say that it is God alone who is responsible for this cosmic "stretching". The Bible also holds the formula for "Pi", and more.
.If the Qur'an is a true miracle of God - why is it so muddled with historical, scientific and other errors, including simple math? Wouldn't we expect an all-knowing Allah to be better student of history, science and math? If there is but one error in the Qur'an, how can it be inspired by God?
Gods unique name in the bible is YHWH (pronounced Yaweh) and is mentioned 6,823 times in the Bible. Muhammad never used Gods real name even once, suggesting he never knew it. Muhammad also seems to have not known He also told the Hebrews to call Him "I Am".

reply to post by eyescryforALLAAH07


In Surah 2:249 Muhammad confuses the persons of Saul (Talut) and Gideon. See: Judges 7:4-7
The Koran confused the sister of Moses by implication (Miriam) with Mary, the mother of Jesus 3 times. And Muhammad seemed to think that Jesus was Moses' nephew, the son of Moses' sister Mariam. Mary, the mother of Jesus, and Miriam the sister of Moses actually lived about 1500 years apart. The entire Chapter 19 is devoted to Mary (Maryam) the mother of Jesus in the Qur'an. Surah 19:28, "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" Surah 66.12 calls Mary 'daughter of lmran". lmran is the Arabic form of the Hebrew Amram mentioned in Numbers 26.59 as the father of "Aaron, Moses and Miriam." The title "sister of Aaron" is given to Miriam in Exodus 15.20. Surah 3.35-36, The wife of Amram said, "My Lord, I have dedicated (the baby) in my belly to You, totally, so accept from me. You are Hearer, Omniscient."

How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur'an speaks about the annunciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Surah 3:42,45 speaks about angels (plural) while it is only one in Surah 19:17-21. The Christian Bible clearly indicated one angel; "In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a town in Galilee called Nazareth," Luke 1:26

Muhammad additionally confuses the Tower of Babel in this rant, found in Suras 28:38-39 and 40:36-37:
What about Noah's (Nuh) son? According to Surah 21:76, Noah and his family is saved from the flood, and Suras 29:15 and 37:76-77 confirms that his seed survived. But Surah 11:42-43 reports that Noah's son drowns
so which one is it did they drowned or were they saved?

Muhammad never understood the Trinity (Father / Son / Holy Spirit):
Surah 116, 4:171, 5:73-75, Muhammad mistakenly thought the Christian Trinity was 3 gods: the Father, the Mother (Mary), and the Son (Jesus). This is based on Muhammad's own misunderstanding seen in Surah 5:119. Also, in the last of all Suras we read: O Jesus, Son of Mary, hast thou said unto mankind 'Take me and my mother as two Gods beside God? ' He shall say: 'Glory be unto Thee! it is not for me to say that which I know to be not the truth.' There is no way for Muslims today to escape the fact that the Koran indeed contains this major theological blunder. The Bible, shows that there is a Trinity (Matthew 28:19, 1 John 5:7).

To make things far worse for Islam. In the Qur'an where Allah speaks, he says "We", "Us", Our" over 100 times!... Showing again and again that God is not a single person, but several persons in one divine being:

Suras 7:8–9 and 21:47 teach Muslims that salvation is determined by good Works. Masons also teach this erroneous and very harmful theology. The Gospel of Jesus is adamant that we are saved by Faith alone, and not by works (Ephesians 2:8–9). Granted, the Bible says we must do a few things to obtain salvation, like repent (Acts 2:38), confess Jesus (Romans 10:10), and be baptized (Acts 2:38), but it is our continuing faith in Jesus as our only mediator that saves us. That is not to say we need not have works at all—we must have works to back up our faith (James 2:26). Nevertheless, we are not saved by our works, but by our faith and the grace of the Lord Jesus.

Surah 28:8-9, says is was Pharaoh's wife who adopted Moses. The Bible says it was Pharaoh's daughter in Exodus 2:5-10.

- Paradise has one garden. (Surah 39:73, 41:30, 57:21, 79:41). Paradise has many gardens. (Surah 18:31, 22:23, 35:33, 78:32).

- Even the name for Jesus in the Qur'an is incorrect. The name for Jesus in the Qur'an is given as "Issa." Issa is the Arabic equivalent of Esau, the name for the twin brother of Jacob. The correct Arabic name for Jesus would be Yeshua or Yeshuwa.



CONTINUED```

National Enquirer




This story has been for so long I was scared the first time I heard about it and that was many moons ago.


[edit on 22-1-2009 by SLAYER69]

reply to post by eyescryforALLAAH07


Suras 6:34, 6:115, 10:64 and 50:28,29 clearly says to Muslims, "No change can there be in the words of Allah" and that Allah cannot alter (or abrogate) his words." So the Torah and Christian Gospels are correct, because Allah did verify this fact -- this clearly makes the Muslim Qur'an is false; because it contradicts Allah

Consider the change of amount of days creation took, first from 6 days (Suras 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59) and then it gets changed to 8 days (Suras 41:9-12). Is someone not playing with a full deck?

Allah can have a son. (Surah 39:4). Allah can't have a son. (Surah 6:101, and 25:2).

Face Mecca while praying. (Surah 2:144). Face Jerusalem while praying. Originally Muhammad instructed Muslims to face Jerusalem when praying; probably because Solomon established the practice of praying while facing Jerusalem (1 Kings 8:29, 30, 44; 2 Chronicles 6:21; Daniel 6:10). Apparently, Muhammad believed at first that God wanted him to pray facing Jerusalem and he did so for nearly 16-17 months - at least while he thought the he could convert the Jews to his religion. However, later, when the Jews rebuffed him Muhammad preferred to pray towards the Ka'ba in Mecca which, during this point in time, contained 360 idols. You should do a study on those 360 idols if you do you'll find that today they still use the same symbol as they did back then in there mosiuqes. Moon and star all over...and they have a rock medior.

Is Jesus a Prophet or not? Will Jesus burn in hell? In Surah 4:158 Jesus is raised to Allah, and in Surah 3:45 Jesus is stationed near Allah. Jesus is worshiped by billions of Christians. Yet Surah 21:98 says, that all that are worshiped by men besides Allah will burn in Hell together with those who worship them. Or, is Jesus Allah, the same substance with the Father?

The Koran is a divine revelation with no errors. Hmm! "This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary, it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds" Surah 1:37; and "The revelation of the Book is from Allah, the Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom" Surah 45:2 . But then look at this. "Never have We sent a prophet or apostle to you with whose wishes Satan did not tamper. But Allah abrogates the interjections of Satan and confirms His own revelations." Surah 22:52

According to Muhammad, Angels are the reason Roosters Crow, and Satan is why Donkeys bray!Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 522:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "When you hear the crowings of cocks, ask for Allah's blessings (for their crowing indicates that) they have seen an Angel. And, when you hear the braying of donkeys, seek refuge with Allah from Satan for (their braying indicates)that they have seen a Satan."

Also consider this nonsense:

Muslim, Book 023, Number 5007:

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger having said: Do not eat with your left hand, for the Satan eats with his left hand.

Also consider this nonsense: Muslim, Book 023, Number 5007: Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger having said: Do not eat with your left hand, for the Satan eats with his left hand.

Isn't this a guideline for health and not ridiculous/nonsense at all when you think about it? In a world without toilet paper and piped water people used the left hand to wipe their behind and their right to eat - satan in this sense is illness that befall you if you eat with your left.

As ever, all these books consist of are guidelines to live our lives - the divine bit is thrown in as a fear/control device and as a means to describe anything they didn't understand at the time.

[edit on 22-1-2009 by Goathief]

reply to post by eyescryforALLAAH07



The Koran says in 4:157, that God causes someone who looked like Jesus to die on the cross in his place, therefore tricking the apostles of Christ into thinking he was crucified. how can you escape the fact that the rise of Christianity to the largest religion in the world is ultimately the result of the divine action of Allah?

The Islamic religion teaches that Jesus Christ was a practicing Muslim. is this any less ridiculous than if Christians said Muhammad was a practicing Buddhist? lol

Muslim's claim that Isaiah 42 is a prophecy of Muhammad. Yet Isaiah 53 is one of the foremost prophecies of the crucifixion of Christ in the entire Old Testament. on what basis do you feel Isaiah 42 is uncorrupted which prophecies Muhammad, but Isaiah 53 is corrupted that prophesies the crucifixion of Christ?

Galatians 1:6-9 Apostle Paul says "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Christ for a different religion. But even if an angel from heaven, should preach to you a different religion, let him be accursed. Do you think it possible that this is a genuine text from God and he foresaw that both Muhammad and Joseph Smith would be taught a new religion by an angel?

History is proven fact that the prophecies in the bible are truth. The Bible contains over 60 distinct prophecies of Jesus Christ 1000 years before hand. what is the single most remarkable prophecy that Muhammad made that was fulfilled? If you are a prophet you will prophesy.

The 66 books of the Bible were written by 40 different men over a period of 1600 years with multiple threads of unified themes that span cover to cover. would you not agree that in contrast to the Bible, that the Qur'an is a jumble of disjointed material, without order, continuity or unity of any kind?

Muslims claim that the Angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit who came upon Mary and caused her to conceive based upon Luke 1:26:38. If this is true, then why did Gabriel say to Mary in verse 35, "the power of the Holy Spirit will come upon you" rather than "my power will come upon you"?

Muslims state that they believe that the Bible is a book filled with pornography, and quoted Gen 19:32 where Lot made his two daughters pregnant. Do you feel that the Bible should be removed from every library in Canada? And are you comfortable with the fact that your prophet Muhammad married a six year old child, when he was 55 years old and had sexual relationshions with her when she was around the age of 9, which muslims claim she was a women at that time and ready? Do you think this is a good story to tell children and if you had a daughter would you be ok with her getting married at the age of six and having sexual intercourse at the age of 9?

Muslims teach Muhammad was sinless. However the Koran specifically limits the number of wives a Muslim man can marry to 4. Yet Muhammad married at least 12 women. Is Muhammad above the very law he gave in the Koran and isn’t the definition of sin violating the law of God?

How many good deeds would one have to do to earn back allah's mercy if they murdered thousands of inocent ppl?

The Koran says men were turned into apes because they broke the Sabbath. This was a popular legend in Muhammad's day (Suras 2:65; 7:163-166).

reply to post by caramelnsilkbc


I really don't have the energy or inclination to dissect your tirade in it's entirety though I'd love to hear your opinion on my previous post in this thread.

Also:

The Islamic religion teaches that Jesus Christ was a practicing Muslim. is this any less ridiculous than if Christians said Muhammad was a practicing Buddhist? lol

I think the Islamic explanation of Jesus the far more likely of the two, one says he was an ordinary man (a prophet) who was divinely chosen to spread the word of god and the other claims he was god incarnate or son of god via divine birth - which one is which?

Buddhists do not pray to a god, neither did Siddhartha Gautama claim to be divine so the comparison is strange at best.

reply to post by eyescryforALLAAH07

Islam cannot be from God because the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, did not pass God's first test for a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:21-22 tells us that God will authenticate those He sends as a prophet by having them perform signs. Muhammad gave no sign as required by God.
(Deuteronomy 18:21,22, NAS95) 21 "You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’ 22 "When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
Muslims recognize this and try to overcome the principle of God confirming his revelation with signs by asserting that the revelation of the Qur’an itself is a sign. When Muhammad was challenged by the Jews and Christians to produce a sign, he received a special revelation from Allah.

Qur'an 6:37-39, 36. And they said: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Allâh is certainly Able to send down a sign, but most of them know not." 38. There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communitie like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered. 39. Those who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allâh sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills.
Muslims claim that the Qur'an itself is the sign God gave Muhammad.
Notice the difference in the Muslim claims and the evidence put forward by the Hebrew writer in Hebrews 2:3-4,
"How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?"
The Qur’an says that man was created from a clot of blood.
Qur'an 96:1. Proclaim (or Read) In the Name Of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- 2. Created man out of A (mere) clot Of congealed blood;
The Qur’an says that man was created from was created from clay.
Qur’an 6:2 (Also 7:12) 2. He it is Who created You from clay, and then Decreed a stated term (For you). And there is In His Presence another Determined term; yet Ye doubt within yourselves!
The Qur’an says that man was created from water.
Qur’an 25:54. It is He Who has Created man from water: Then has He established Relationships of lineage And marriage: for thy Lord Has power (over all things).
These are internal contradictions that indicate the origin of the Qur’an was not the mind of God, but the mind of man, Muhammad.
cant forget about those 72 virgins that this religion is promised for dying in battle in allahs name, hmmm wonder what there reasoning for fighting for there religion/countries. Do you think it reallly has anything to do with allah, or maybe its just lust over 72 virgins they will be rewarded with when they get there.
Think and research my claims, have an open mind, I did about the lslam. islam is different then The God of abraham, issaic and jacob. The God I know is loving but cannot be in the presents of sin, cannot look upon sin, With out Christ we have no way to heaven, no one to atone for our sins. Nothing we do can make up for our sinful natures, our sins, only Jesus Christ can do that, God needed a once in a life time sacrifice to save us from our sin, we needed a savior, deliveror, God provided yet man rejects. he is our bridge to our Father, he is a man yes Gods own son, he has a body and sits on the right hand thrown of God interceeding for us. He is our high priest and we do works cause we love him.Not to be saved. heaven is a gift, given by grace

[edit on 22-1-2009 by caramelnsilkbc]

reply to post by Goathief


hmmm no I dont think so It says THE SATAN. as in Satan himself.

reply to post by Goathief


Just saying just because the koran states jesus was a practicing muslim doesnt make it true. Just if my bible said mohammad was a practicing buddist. Doesnt make it any truer. dont know much about buddist, been studying islam cause someone told me we worship the same God but yet they wanted me to convert to muslim so i thought "well thats funny if we worship the same God, and you beleive you go to heaven by works and i go by faith and do good works because of my love for christ and live a good life then we will both go to heaven.So why do i need to convert?..so I went to check it out and found out that there statement of "yeah I beleive in Jesus Christ" was not what my beleives are fact far from it..and in there religion you cannot beleive in Jesus in order to be go to heaven...at least that is what i believe. that and alot of other weird things.

Do you beleive any of this stuff...I find the worms thing fasanating but the scream thing to me sounded fabricated.

reply to post by caramelnsilkbc


No I don't believe it as there's been too many different legends based on this alleged recording of the damned. Maybe there was something truthful in the beginning but it's been lost and therefore impossible to verify - I could recreate the sound quite easily on this computer and claim it was a 'lost' tape.

As for the worms, it is slightly interesting but considering that the only place they are found is down below it's not surprising the reference pops up in a few holy texts. Now if it was said that giant birds swim down there and that was found to be true it would make a far more compelling argument.

[edit on 22-1-2009 by Goathief]

Originally posted by infinite
There are a dozen threads on the "sounds of hell" clip. The sound is well known and proven fake on the internet.

...and no need to continue this thread, which has gone offtopic. Closed temporarily.