Iran's Revolutionary Guard takes control of Iranian nukes

Originally posted by Luxifero
Could it have occured that the Iranians are seeking an alternative to oil for energy consumption, or have we given them the benefit of the doubt? Once again, U.S. intelligence has been embowered in vauge generalities in regards to many aspects of Iranian intentions, I see no reason to take this article deeply. What's more concerning is that the U.S. itself has stockpiles of Nuclear Weapons and has disregarded numerous treaties in regards to weapons of such calibre; hypocricy is not an admirable virtue.

Luxifero

So true. It was pathetic to watch the British Prime minsiter denounce Iranian intervention in Iraq today. His exact words were "No country has the right to interfear in Iraqi politics........." what arrogance. God I hate him. (Well I didn't vote for him)

The Iranians want Nukes because as soon as they have them they won't have to take any more crap from Western nations, especially the US. They will be abe to do whatever they want and there will not be a damn thing the US will be able to do about it. Im always amazed to see how much the UK and the US have interfeared in Iranian politics over the years.

Oh and by the way, its not in Iranian nature to start wars. They don't tend to like them. They prefer to achive their aims politically. Interesting statistic. Guess which country has dropped more bombs than any other country since WW2?

Originally posted by enslaved83

The Iranians want Nukes because as soon as they have them they won't have to take any more crap from Western nations, especially the US. They will be abe to do whatever they want and there will not be a damn thing the US will be able to do about it. Im always amazed to see how much the UK and the US have interfeared in Iranian politics over the years.

Oh and by the way, its not in Iranian nature to start wars. They don't tend to like them. They prefer to achive their aims politically. Interesting statistic. Guess which country has dropped more bombs than any other country since WW2?

And it is in America's and Israel's best interests to stop them from obtaining them. Iran, of all nations, does not deserve the privilege in obtaining nuclear technology. They have shown their hands in support of more than one terrorist organization, and have been shown relative leniency in doing so. Maybe the time has come for Iran to get a spanking for their past indiscretions against America, Israel, and Europe.

Iran achieves their political aims, not by negotiations, but by supporting terrorists who do their dirty work for them. Once they have obtained a nuclear device, let's see often they will use it as leverage to get what they want, both econimically and politically.

Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by bodrul
so please dont give the grabage

Look at iran's oil reserves.

Iran is OPEC's second largest oil producer and [url=holds 10 percent of the world's proven oil reserves. It also has the world's second largest natural gas reserves [...]
Iran holds 125.8 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, roughly 10 percent of the world's total, up from 90 billion barrels in 2003 [...]in July 2004, Iran's oil minister had noted that the country's proven oil reserves had increased to 132 billion barrels

They do not need nuclear power plants to generate electricity, and far from running short on oil, their reserves are constantly being found to dramatically increase. True, its a non-renewable resource. So maybe when the iranians in colonies on mars and europa ask for fuel oil, they might have to be turned down, but that nuke plant will be obsolete generations before iran runs out.

No nation in the world 'needs' nuclear power plants, but OPEC nations desire them more than any other for one good reason.

OPEC quotas are for oil production, not export.

Every bit of domestic oil consumption the STATE can replace puts money into the pockets of the STATE.

The loans for the nuclear power plants will be paid for by the electricity customers so there is little real expense by the STATE to have the reactors built.

Its a win-win situation.

They get to sell more oil bring in more money, and there is then more oil on the market so prices drop, and Russia makes a profit on the reactors.

It should have been America doing it, but we screwed up by allowing the former DICTATOR to rob the Iranian people, and hide out in America.

Was that stupid, or what?

Originally posted by nathraq
Iran achieves their political aims, not by negotiations, but by supporting terrorists who do their dirty work for them. Once they have obtained a nuclear device, let's see often they will use it as leverage to get what they want, both econimically and politically.

as soon as i read this the one thing came to mind is what the US does and did in the past to overthrow goverments that they didnt like
what a laugh


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nicely said

[edit on 6-10-2005 by bodrul]

Electricity is made with natural gas most commonly, and OPEC doesn't directly control that. Natural gas is harder to export. The idea that they will make more money on oil by having domestic nukes is silly. They may be able to export a bit more natural gas.

Iran has no need for this.

They are pursuing enrichment, long before they have enough nuclear plants to use the fuel, and they want heavy water reactors, and reject light water reactors (which is what most civilian plants use) because heavy water reactors are better for making bomb-grade plutonium.

Originally posted by mbkennel
Electricity is made with natural gas most commonly, and OPEC doesn't directly control that. Natural gas is harder to export. The idea that they will make more money on oil by having domestic nukes is silly. They may be able to export a bit more natural gas.......

China wants all of the Natural Gas they can get from Iran.

30 October 2004

China's oil giant Sinopec Group has signed a $70 billion oil and natural gas agreement with Iran.
Continued....
english.aljazeera.net...

There is even talk of a pipeline from Iran to China.

[edit on 6-10-2005 by ArchAngel]

Originally posted by bodrul

as soon as i read this the one thing came to mind is what the US does and did in the past to overthrow goverments that they didnt like

what a laugh

[edit on 6-10-2005 by bodrul]

Exactly. And I support America for doing so. We are the Romans of the New Millenia. We have the power, and the fortitude to be able to topple governments that are hostile to our nation and our national interests. To not do so, would be dangerous, if not down right stupid.

The world is like a high-tech strategy game. Anyone who understands strategy, and wants to win the game, will tear down their opponents defenses, and try and cause dissent among his population; sabotage his economy and resources, build alliances against him, and court his enemies allies to your side. A nation needs to have influence in key areas of the world, where strategic resources and locations are available. If that means deposing some piss-ant little country in the process, then that iswhat happens.

This is called 'survival'. It's the way of the world, from the beginning of civilizations. It will never change. A person would have to change the minds of over 6 billion people for ' world peace' to exist. But to be honest and realistic, that will never happen.

Originally posted by nathraq

Originally posted by bodrul

as soon as i read this the one thing came to mind is what the US does and did in the past to overthrow goverments that they didnt like

what a laugh

[edit on 6-10-2005 by bodrul]

Exactly. And I support America for doing so. We are the Romans of the New Millenia. We have the power, and the fortitude to be able to topple governments that are hostile to our nation and our national interests. To not do so, would be dangerous, if not down right stupid.

The world is like a high-tech strategy game. Anyone who understands strategy, and wants to win the game, will tear down their opponents defenses, and try and cause dissent among his population; sabotage his economy and resources, build alliances against him, and court his enemies allies to your side. A nation needs to have influence in key areas of the world, where strategic resources and locations are available. If that means deposing some piss-ant little country in the process, then that iswhat happens.

This is called 'survival'. It's the way of the world, from the beginning of civilizations. It will never change. A person would have to change the minds of over 6 billion people for ' world peace' to exist. But to be honest and realistic, that will never happen.

And I agree to some extent but isn't it ignorance when people reply to threads like these labeling the US as the so called "Saint" doing the right thing while US opposition is always doing the bad?

Atleast you can be straight-up about it and acknowledge that what your country is doing will most likely always be in their own interests (as mentioned by nathraq), I know that governments themselves can't be straight-up about it cause that would be stupid/suicidal.