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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by SpittinCobra
Ad-Ware calls them tracking-cookies. (sorry for using the wrong term)
IM pretty sure it has to do with google ad-sense.
Cookies are not malicious. The myth that they are is a fallacy perpetuated by virus/malware scanning companies. We use up to ten total cookies to validate our logged-in users across different areas of the ATS services and domains.
Originally posted by Kalapadea
4 popups on this page so far
They didn't come from us. Logged-in members don't get any pop-ups, and guests have a frequency cap of two pops.
Originally posted by Kalapadea
I'm logged in and I get 2 popups every minute. Crappy popups too, "Registry cleaner" my arse
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by Kalapadea
I'm logged in and I get 2 popups every minute. Crappy popups too, "Registry cleaner" my arse
Your machine is infected. There is a piece of adware on your computer that is initiating the popups (or another window is open that you're not aware of).
It would not be the first time new machines have shipped with infections.
Originally posted by Kalapadea
Woah woah now, I dont wanna get pulled in much further but, this is my job SO. Spyware is my life, I love cleaning machines, none of the comps I build ever start out with any, (besides windows). I mean I'm pretty sure I know when I'm infected, try taking a look with hijackThis sometime. I've come to this site from over 100 computers, everyone gets the same amount of popups, content changes of course, but I'd say 90% of the computers I use I've checked for spyware repeatedly.
Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander
Originally posted by Kalapadea
Woah woah now, I dont wanna get pulled in much further but, this is my job SO. Spyware is my life, I love cleaning machines, none of the comps I build ever start out with any, (besides windows). I mean I'm pretty sure I know when I'm infected, try taking a look with hijackThis sometime. I've come to this site from over 100 computers, everyone gets the same amount of popups, content changes of course, but I'd say 90% of the computers I use I've checked for spyware repeatedly.
I have been here from 6 different PCs using various browsers over the last 2 years. I have never gotten any spyware from here. Zero.
I think the issue MORE than the spyware for me...is the finger-pointing at ATS as the cause. I am SURE that this is not the only site you ever visit.
Believe me, Skeptic would kill anything generating spyway in a second but in all our testing...we just haven't seen a thing. And yes, I have just as much experience with spyware and building PCs as yourself.
Why does it come back to the unspoken reference to like it all or leave? It is your site you can anything you want with it, but the better questions are; are you in the business first and foremost of selling advertisement and the products associated with them or in the business of hosting a discussion website? Do you not advertise membership as enjoying the relief from just such advertisements?
Originally posted by SkepticOverlordWhy do you feel it is fair to enjoy our significant suite of member services while blocking the only means we have to receive compensation for providing those services?
Is it not enough that the advertisements are displayed on all sides of the various pages for all who wish to shop them of their free accord, so why then is it necessary to force further advertisements when coming into the site and its affiliates, and somehow circumvent the very product that I and others have paid for for the very purpose of keeping spyware often planted within these pests from attaching themselves to our computers and slowing them down? I use google and yahoo, as examples, free of charge, yet they have no issue with the fact that my popup blocker does its job, and they both employ a significant suite of services also, but I do not avail myself of them all either, nor care for all of them.
We are an advertising supported website, however, our members are highly valued and respected. Registered and logged-in members see much less advertising than guests, and never get any pop-up ads.
I beg to differ with you, my IT manager is not wrong, he is far too versed in what he does to be. And I can guarantee you that the attacks took place within seconds of my entry in here, and within five minutes, he was in my chair tracing the culprit to Schlend and Partner AG routed through New York, The UK and Germany, who it seems has quite the reputation for installing viruses and spyware via their clients businesses. Now I have no idea if ATS deals with this company or not, and I did not say that you did, but I do know that the attacks took place while in here. So if in fact it might be via a member’s avatar, your several systems which you have in place to prevent malicious code obviously needs tweaking. I don’t understand why you get so defensive about the issues brought to your attention by various members, and rather than do so, you might wish to ponder that the issue is not with our computers at all, because this:
Your IT manager is wrong. We have several systems in place to prevent malicious code from reaching our members.
does not jive with this dismissal
We've constantly maintained that if any member or guest brings any specific concern over the content or performance of any ad on our domains, it will be swiftly addressed.
so the probability that they've allowed malicious ads into their network is near-zero, at best.
Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
Why does it come back to the unspoken reference to like it all or leave? It is your site you can anything you want with it, but the better questions are; are you in the business first and foremost of selling advertisement and the products associated with them or in the business of hosting a discussion website? Do you not advertise membership as enjoying the relief from just such advertisements?
Is it not enough that the advertisements are displayed on all sides of the various pages for all who wish to shop them of their free accord, so why then is it necessary to force further advertisements when coming into the site and its affiliates, and somehow circumvent the very product that I and others have paid for for the very purpose of keeping spyware often planted within these pests from attaching themselves to our computers and slowing them down?
Why is it different that you feel it is fair that you should have the right to deliver unwanted mail to my personal e-mail which I pay for when you are telling me above in so many words that I utilize your site at no charge and therefore should accept whatever you embed within same?
I don’t understand why you get so defensive about the issues brought to your attention by various members, and rather than do so, you might wish to ponder that the issue is not with our computers at all, because this.
Originally posted by thejunk
Well said Zedd and thank you for giving us this forum. I've been visiting this site for years as a guest without any issues other than the 2 popups.
I'm wondering if someone didn't get a good night's sleep or something.
Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
the attacks took place within seconds of my entry in here, and within five minutes, he was in my chair tracing the culprit to Schlend and Partner AG routed through New York, The UK and Germany, who it seems has quite the reputation for installing viruses and spyware via their clients businesses. Now I have no idea if ATS deals with this company or not, and I did not say that you did, but I do know that the attacks took place while in here. So if in fact it might be via a member’s avatar, your several systems which you have in place to prevent malicious code obviously needs tweaking.
Originally posted by thejunk
I'm wondering if someone didn't get a good night's sleep or something.
I have had to fight a lot of spyware and the one that kills About: Blank is CWshredder.