NEWS: North Korea Claims Deterrent Against US Nuclear Attack

Originally posted by ArchAngel
NK has a total of THREE rather poor light frigates comprising their entire blue water fleet that each can carry only a few short range missiles.

First off: I do not believe the DPRK is as disconnected from Chinese military, as many would have you believe. The Korean conflict has proved this.

As for a better breakdown:

Most North Korean combat vessels, such as light destroyers, patrol ships, guided missile boats, torpedo boats, and fire support boats are small. Some 40 guided missile boats pose a substantial threat; they have the capability of launching missile attacks against large vessels and are equipped with two to four 46-km-range Styx anti-ship missiles. At present, over 60% of North Korean combat vessels are deployed in forward bases.
www.globalsecurity.org...

Second off: The KEDO project was cobbled together in 1994 as the Clinton administration, and since the North Koreans didn't abandon their nuclear weapons development the contract was shuttled.

Under the new arrangement, reached at six-party talks involving the Koreas, the United States, Japan, Russia and China, electric cables from South Korea would send 2 million kilowatts to North Korea as soon as 2008.
www.azcentral.com...

Russia may build nuclear power plant in DPRK: official

Lastly:."He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them." - Sun Tzu

...while it's soothing to underestimate the enemy, it's often fatal, too.




[edit on 26-9-2005 by Regenmacher]

Second off: The KEDO project was cobbled together in 1994 as the Clinton administration, and since the North Koreans didn't abandon their nuclear weapons development the contract was shuttled.

You are mistaken.

These are only unfounded claims.

NK conditionally signed the NNPT, Allowed UN Inspectors and monitoring equipment, shut down its reactors, canned its fuel rods, and closed it processing facilities.

They were in full compliance with the Agreed Framework.

It was after we suspended oil shipments that they kicked out the UN Inspectors, extracted the fuel rods of the reactor, extracted the Plutonium from them, and built nuclear bombs.

Before that they were not a nuclear threat.....

The only evidence to the contrary is what James Kelly said, and he misquoted NK.

First off: I do not believe the DPRK is as disconnected from Chinese military, as many would have you believe. The Korean conflict has proved this.

As for a better breakdown:

quote: Most North Korean combat vessels, such as light destroyers, patrol ships, guided missile boats, torpedo boats, and fire support boats are small. Some 40 guided missile boats pose a substantial threat; they have the capability of launching missile attacks against large vessels and are equipped with two to four 46-km-range Styx anti-ship missiles. At present, over 60% of North Korean combat vessels are deployed in forward bases.
www.globalsecurity.org...

Other than the three none of those are Blue Water ships, and the frigates hardly are at that.

Their missiles range is far shorter than the force projection of the American fleet.

If a conflict begins they are sunk before they know it, and if they attempt to rush they will die trying.

Id rather see NK with a bomb than Iran, personally i think NK is just using this as a bargaining chip to get the light-water reactors they have repeatedly asked for. I dont get it, light-water reactors are relatively safe from the viewpoint of weapons proliferation, It seems to me all the want is a couple of reactors, I dont see any harm in giving them to NK, other than japan will be angry.

Originally posted by ArchAngel

If a conflict begins they are sunk before they know it, and if they attempt to rush they will die trying.

Memory lapses don't erase the fact that on June 25, 1950 North Korea and Kim Il-sung (Jong's father) invaded South Korea and Seoul was captured.

A 10 to 20 kiloton nuclear warhead in any densely populated area will cause major damage. If not launched it can shipped to its target in a shipping container, by submarine or simply by tramp steamer. Thinking they are all just dumb asians, US customs checks everything and subs never sneak in anywhere is patently absurd.

The International Atomic Energy Agency has discovered evidence that North Korea secretly provided Libya with nearly two tons of uranium in early 2001. There is no innocent explainations for the DPRK's enrichment program and hardware acquisitions other than to make nukes, and that's pure crap to say otherwise. They sought to make the nuclear weapons while under the NPT, they made them, and they turned into a supplier of that nuclear technology.

North Korea publicly acknowledged in Beijing it has nuclear weapons and you can guestimate all you want on the timeline by taking the word of a hermit nation with a psycopathic extortionist for a leader. DPRK got caught with it's pants down and that's why they came to the table. Now they have the audacity to demand two light water reactors that can produce "weapons-grade" plutonium which can make at least 400kg per year, which is roughly enough for 70 bombs. The IEIA will get all them spent fuel rods like last time ehh?

Agreed framework my arse, the only agreed part is that you trust the word of the DPRK above others. So what is your real motive to defend Kim Jong-iL ehh?


[edit on 27-9-2005 by Regenmacher]