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Originally posted by DaVirus
WOW The weapons are looking good. But I think Russia ought to spend more on the people. Before the military.
Originally posted by PBscientist
I don't know where you are from, because America hands down has the best economy right now (I don't think anyone will dispute that), overall has the best military technology (individual pieces may be behind, but the average is higher here), and in a conventional war we do have the best military. Provide some evidence to the contrary and I will look at it, but these seem to be facts even foreign patriots (ie. people who like their country) that know even a little bit about real military technology agree on.
Originally posted by prelude
The "America best " is basically due to media coverage ..most of the internationally accepted media (eg BBC, CNN ) are basically US backed irrespective of the country to which they belong .Here is one of billions of such example ........when discovery takes off for a single trip to ISS .......it becomes a world news but when Russia continues to be the only transporter of astronauts to the ISS since the Colombia disaster there is a minimum media coverage (if any )
well let me compare some aspects
Economy
yes America has the biggest economy (GDP) but not the best economy (gdp per capita )
Luxembourg has a higher GDP per capita
In Growth rate USA has 101th rank
www.cia.gov...
The public debt is high too when compared to other countries
www.cia.gov...
even with the highest GDP it ranks 10th when it comes to reserves
www.cia.gov...
so the US supremacy is a media myth
Technology
well NASA didn’t have the technology to transport astronauts to the ISS after the Colombia disaster was forced to rely upon Russian technology
well even when it comes to military tech there is a big question mark specially when the USAF was continuously being dominated by IAF both in USA as well as in India . I was shocked to hear the Indians used Russian technology of 1955….I had some respect for the US technology before hearing the news
(some of you people claim that the US had a number of limitations ....well your points have been already been defeated in the related thread ...so please dont show excuses )
"""""conventional war we do have the best military""""""""
have you ever fought a real war since WW2 ?
You haven’t dared to fight against any real power in spite of having a military spending greater than that of the whole world combined together
you have fought against Vietnam...and you prefer to forget what happened there
you didn’t dare to fight with the Afghans fearing casualties and used the rebel afghan “Northern alliance “ against the Talibans instead
And in Iraq you are still fighting to escape
Nodoubt the USA is a great country with great power but I don’t believe that they are best in everything specially when its a country which doesn’t have any language any tradition and most importantly any
"brain" of her own
Originally posted by PBscientist
If you have evidence to the contrary, please show it.
Originally posted by Figher Master FIN
Yeah, I don't think that they will make any new fighters... They've got plenty... and 22% wouldn't even be close to the budget needed to build all those... Tanks might be the thing...
and 22% wouldn't even be close to the budget needed to build all those
A draft 2006 budget allocates 668.3 billion rubles (24 billion dollars, 19.5 billion euros) for spending on national defense, an increase of nearly 22 percent on this year's defense budget and a figure equivalent to about 2.75 percent of Russia's projected gross national product.
Originally posted by PBscientist
I just checked a few of those links, and they basically supported what I said. India has good pilots, but the US techonological advantage was brought down in the name of fair play (which wouldn't happen in a war). It wasn't meant to be a simulation of US vs India, it was just a friendly excersize to test the capabilities of the planes.
We probably shouldn't discuss this anymore though, since it is off topic.
Proportionate?
Appropriate?
'Defence' contractors and their buddies in gov gouging the nicely taxpayers?