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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
No, you should not vote Libertarian. You should vote for this party:
If you find one that is more in line with the original intent of the nation, let me know.
Originally posted by Flinx
Eh, well when I was typing my initial post, I realized that Libertarianism and I have irreconcilable differences. There really are less checks on cronyism and exploitive capitalism in this system. There is the fact that I believe human progress leads to larger and larger systems of government rather than a devolution into city-states.
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
I like the idea of voting a philosophy, because I have a philosophy of government, as do many people here (of course, our philosophies may differ substantially). My personal belief is based on the understanding that government-- any and every government -- is based on one rationale: they will take away a portion of your freedom to provide you with a portion of service.
The simplest version of this philosophy is what a guy called Jean-Jacques Rousseau dubbed the "social contract": We make a deal with each other, each of us giving up the “right” to kill and steal stuff from another person, if he gives up the right to do the same to us
This minimalist form of government is best delineated by the Founders, where they said (in the D of I):
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
The maximalist form of government is where the government gives you everything you need and, in return, takes away all your rights. I guess the best examples of such a government would be a quote from Karl Marx in 1874: "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs!"
I pretty much agree with your assessments of the two main parties also, except the assertion that fear of stupidity is the primary motivator for voting those platforms. At least I think that's what you were saying.
I totally agree some requests are unreasonable. All the social issues, authoritarian versus civil liberties stuff is totally without merit.
But I don't have a problem saying taxes really don't bother me when it comes to doing good things.
But I can't vote libertarian on a national level because of it. Well, that and the isolationism I perceive.