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Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
You still have not answered my questions.
I am one of many that do not beleive that they ever went to the moon in the first place.
Assuming that they did, how come the earlier spacecraft went to the moon and came back, no tiles fell off, no overheating problems and it did not have special tiles on any given side.
Some 35 years later with a vastly advanced technology they can not duplicate this feat, I don't buy it.
Second, "NO ONE" can prove that the NASA program has provided us with the other new technologies stated above.
Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commissions Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in a secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney Studios within which was a huge scale mock-up of the moon.
Originally posted by Plumbo
Why does nasa gets billions of $$$?
People like being lied to, they just don't realize it.
People want to trust the words of other people in higher authority.
There is a denial mechanism embedded in each one of us. We feel insecure. Not sure what the future holds, what catastrophic event may occur. However, there is an ultimate demise to the one trusting in other men/women. Jeremiah 17:5 curses the man who trusts in man.
There also is an evil force in this world. It is governed by the being the bible calls Lucifer. According to Isaiah 14, it is Lucifer's desire to be like his Creator, to take his place. However, His Creator kicked him out of his Presence. So, this Lucifer and his associates influence the minds of the men in power who have sold their souls for this power.
But God is right there, in the heart of the earth, literally speaking. He hides behind the veiled curtain of the celestial sphere. He's covered with dark waters and thick clouds. Lucifer's control on the minds of this world has people everywhere believing the lie that the universe is an infinite realm and ther is no physical, bodily presence of any sort of Creator. He uses the "sciences" to back this claim. And yet, God is right there, no less than 4,000 miles away.
The world will eventually know the truth about this.
One way or another.
Once this happens, nasa and all governing agencies that have supported this global lie will be shamefully defeated.
-sjc
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
You still have not answered my questions.
I am one of many that do not beleive that they ever went to the moon in the first place.
Originally posted by gititdun1
the lunar soil and in the cracks and crevices of the bouders... the soil is made up of bits and pieces of electronic and avionics circuitry, cables, wiring that has been acid washed, torched, electroplated and covered with bauxite powder. there are visible spade connectors, chips, resistors and crushed up circuit boards in the lunar soil. the other "anomalies" are just theater faux pas... the real proof is looking closer and seeing things your mind wouldn't normally think of even looking for... hiding in plain sight.
i have the visual proof... seems i'm not allowed to upload such hi-rez offerings so perhaps i could send them to someone? perhaps someone with a link to the news media? someone who would have the nerve to expose this? someone who could ask an astronaut how it felt to walk around on all that electronic technology on the moon?
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
plumbo !!!! I'm so glad you're here ! If I have the right plumbo, the one who posted about the earth being surrounded by glass, can you explain how the shuttle got to the space station without incident ?
thanks !
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
Excuses, excuses, excuses, that's all you have.
"IF" they went to the moon in 1969 all they had to do is make the external covering of the shuttle out of the same material that covered the original capsule.
Since 1969 the space progam has been a failure, people died, there were fuel leaks, why waste my money, these scientist have gone backward, they can't even get a spacecraft to go 200 miles above the earth without problems, it has become a joke, and it is on us.
This current flight was only done to keep the money coming in.
To answer the other question, if you paid me enough money, I would tell you that I invented the Light bulb, all I would need is a little help from you erasing Edisons name. The "ELITE" would gladly do this if it would help them in their deceptions which are many.
You can beleive that they went to the moon all you want, one day soon the truth will be revealed, I am not decieved and will "NEVER" beleive their lies. There is "NOTHING" that will convince me otherwise.
[edit on 1-8-2005 by Lastday Prophet]
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
Excuses, excuses, excuses, that's all you have.
"IF" they went to the moon in 1969 all they had to do is make the external covering of the shuttle out of the same material that covered the original capsule.
Since 1969 the space progam has been a failure, people died, there were fuel leaks, why waste my money, these scientist have gone backward, they can't even get a spacecraft to go 200 miles above the earth without problems, it has become a joke, and it is on us.
To answer the other question, if you paid me enough money, I would tell you that I invented the Light bulb, all I would need is a little help from you erasing Edisons name. The "ELITE" would gladly do this if it would help them in their deceptions which are many.
You can beleive that they went to the moon all you want
one day soon the truth will be revealed
I am not decieved and will "NEVER" beleive their lies. There is "NOTHING" that will convince me otherwise.
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
You still have not answered my questions.
I am one of many that do not beleive that they ever went to the moon in the first place.
Assuming that they did, how come the earlier spacecraft went to the moon and came back, no tiles fell off, no overheating problems and it did not have special tiles on any given side.
Some 35 years later with a vastly advanced technology they can not duplicate this feat, I don't buy it.
Second, "NO ONE" can prove that the NASA program has provided us with the other new technologies stated above.
This technology could of been created at area 51 or other high security government facilities and passed of as being made from technology learned from the space program. It would serve to make people confident that the space program has a real purpose.
You can not prove the technology came from the space program, all you can do is state what "THEY" tell you. I for one do not accept anything they say to be factual, there are to many flaws and questions when you closely analyze the space program.
Here below is a link to William Coopers document that exposes the space program for the deception that it really is. He was killed for revealing this truth and the other deceptions he exposed.
www.hourofthetime.com...
[edit on 1-8-2005 by Lastday Prophet]
Originally posted by gititdun1
i knew this would open a can of worms... about time though. first to justify my credentials. i've been trained in camouflage, optics, photography and interpretative evaluations. part of my 30 year service to this country was to examine recon and sat photos and find all the little details. so i'm pretty sure of what i see and what i see is fakery... good, but still fakery. there are many other reasons to doubt that apollo ever went to the moon. be it known, i'm not saying that man did not go to the moon, or mars for that matter. there's much more to this than just fooling the earth about a good p.r. job by nasa.
you have made some good points. first off the answer as to why the soil was made that way... reflectivity, shadow patterns and texture/brittleness. the silica and metal based pieces provided contrast of light and shadow against strong studio lamps... they also cast shadow patterns that merged and formed an interesting visual texture throughout the landscape. this relaxes the eye and gives more focus on the subject matter. had there been nothing more than normal sand, dirt, and pebbles the interesting would have become flat, boring and much too like "earth"... that would prompt even more suspicion. the rocks had to be created because they had to be "older looking"... alien and not like anything found here. there's another reason anomalies were built into some of the visuals, but that's food for another thread.
you mention the famous footprint... as11-40-58776,
show.imagehosting.us...
in that picture is one of the most glaring examples of hoax proof in the entire apollo catalog! about 10-11 o'clock on the edge of the step down, a spade connector with connecting wire glints in the stagelight! of course nothing of perfect focus was ever shot... every picture is a bit out of focus and that's the reason... so as to melt the objects into the background, but sometimes, fate has other ideas.
the laser beam reflector... everytime apollo is challenged, you load this tired old horse into a wagon and cart him out. fire a laser beam at any "reflective surface"... what are the odds you're gonna be ducking photon spray? ever been to a disco? not to mention you're refracting it going through the atmosphere and coming back? yes, it's reported to be a weak signal on return, but nonetheless... have you stood outside at night and observed how "reflective" the lunar surface is? granted, our atmosphere amplifies the light intensity, but even from the iss, it's reflective... more reflective than the mirror coated bread box they supposedly left there. think maybe it wouldn't matter where you shot the laser, some of it might just come back? you might actually want to check the facts at apache point and ask them how many times they've missed? zero. it ain't because they're so accurate in hitting a mirror coated bread box, which by the way, would be covered by the "lunar dust", fried by a spe/cme or penetrated by micrometeors by now (according to nasa's own updated lunar analysis) gee! didn't that have all that radiation protection solved back then? anyway, it's because the entire moon is a target. and another thing... data is the easiest form of "proof" to fake... there are plenty of high earth orbit sats that could easily absorb and bounce anything you can conceive of. as for apollo 8... the same photographic and set techniques were used for clementine and orbital shots of the moon... expensive, but much cheaper than trying to do the impossible.
Originally posted by Plumbo
As you probably know, the ss crew made the decision to repair the heat sheild.
What's interesting to me is the fact that a mere inch protrusion could cause the temperature to increase at the point of extrusion.
Why?
If, however, they were skidding across a glass rim and the friction was intensified at that point, then I could understand.
www.belowtopsecret.com...
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
yay ! my favorite topic of all time on these boards is back !!!!!!
plumbo, how fast would the SS be moving at the point it comes into contact with the glass ?
The incident I was referring to earlier would be the shuttle crashing
through the glass. It might , well, umm damage the vehicle somehow ?