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Originally posted by Army
HIFIGUY, great post!
It is funny, that when the right thinking people post something that may or may not be 100% accurate, the lefties are ALLLLLLLL over it, with venom.
Originally posted by arnold_vosloo
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us.
so you are saying that he shouldn't of gone to war because the serbs were massacaring the albanians but it is ok to go to war with Iraq even though he was doing the exact same thing with the kurds?? make your mind up either it is ok or not, the only difference I can see is that the president was a democrat for the kosovo war and republican for Iraq ??
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on
multiple occasions.
most of those attacks were while bush was president not clinton!
g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush
has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled
al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North
Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who
slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
barely...he's killed 20000 innocent people with indiscrimate bombing of civilian areas not to mention the 500,000 children who died as a direct result of flawed sanctions. The taliban still rome relatively freely in afganistan and there are signs of impending civil war there. Err dont remember any nuclear inspector in Iran and North Korea ?? please enlighten me.
who's the biggest terrorist saddam or the american governemt?
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the
month of January.That's just one American city,
about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
a.FDR led us into World War II.
b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did.
>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 112,500 per year.
c.Trumanfinished that war and started one in Korea.
North Korea never attacked us.
>From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 18,334 per year.
d John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.
e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
>From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 5,800 per year.
f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us.
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on
multiple occasions.
The Democrats are complaining
about how long the war is taking.
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons
in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took
to count the votes in Florida!!!!
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant
to realize the facts
But Wait there's more!
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the
month of January.That's just one American city,
about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
There are 0 combat related killings in Detroit. The last time I remember there arent any suicide bombers killing multiple citizens daily in the US?? to compare these two things is ludicrous and disrespectful.
a.FDR led us into World War II.
and america was victorious and became the worlds pre-eminent power.
b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did.
>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 112,500 per year.
Germany declared war on the United States of America after Japan attacked the United States. Nazi Germany was an ally of Japan. Enough said.
c.Trumanfinished that war and started one in Korea.
North Korea never attacked us.
>From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 18,334 per year.
The protection of South Korea was a mission undercarried by the United Nations, not the United States.
d John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.
e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
>From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ...
an average of 5,800 per year
just because a democrat screwed up in naml on fighting communism automatically excuses what Bush had done??
I thought the conflict in Vietnam was one that was wrong but lets get some facts straight:
JFK didnt start the Vietnam war. It has been raging for decades, first against Japan, then the french, then the country was divided and elections were suppose to happen. The US didnt want the elections to happen so they were postponed indefinitely. The United States didnt pre-emptively invade a sovereign nation, South Vietnam wanted it there..
f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us.
something needed to be done about the awful crimes going on there.
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on
multiple occasions
he dropped the ball when he had the chance to take out bin laden. But so did Bush, we all have heard about how the Administration got the warning about the attacks but did nothing about it. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, not clinton's and he had the intel to do something about it. Instead they ignored it..
The Democrats are complaining
about how long the war is taking.
the democrats are complaining if the congress of the united states was given information about iraq that was fixed around the case for war and if the Bush Administration wanted to go to war regardless of the presence of WMDs.
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons
in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.
Inspectors had been looking for years on end and months before the war began. Still today we have not found these killer stockpiles of WMDs or the capabilities required for Saddam to build a nuclear weapon.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took
to count the votes in Florida!!!!
no one in their right mind would tell you that Iraq is taken
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant
to realize the facts
you mean the same biased media who made the war look like a video game and who showed the images of US 'victory' around the world?
But Wait there's more
more idiocy??
I think its pretty disgusting that a Repuke tries to use John Glenn in this way by tacking on this crap at the start of it.!
Deaths are deaths. Its all relative. One is combat, and one was inner city, Not too hard to figure out.
a.FDR led us into World War II.
and america was victorious and became the worlds pre-eminent power.
Germany and Italy declared first. The US reciprocated. Why would you not fight those who declare war on you, attack your merchant shipping and are allies of those who just bombed one of your main harbours?? Are you blaming the entire 2nd world war on FDR? The US was attacked and declared war on first. FDR helped make America what it is today.
Not enough said. It was a mutual declaration of war with Germany and Italy declaring war and the US declaring in return after having stated being neutral...Under FDR.
Its the concept of scope of liberation and the relative number of lives lost in Iraq versus Viet Nam.
I think we can all agree Iraq is considerably less, yet much larger geographically.
Was I making this partisan?
Bosnia was a mess either way. Our reluctance to interfere ended up in people losing their lives.
I was a democrat, and Bush wasnt in office for very long to be honest. We had 8 years of the Clinton admin that I liked. If you read Richard Clarks book you might learn something.
For crying out loud. Let it go. Bunch of damm whiners anyway. Were there. Wars on. People need help.
I liked Clinton, but even I had to scratch my head about some of the odd deaths that happened around him. The weapons arent, and neither is Sadaam. No typing in the world is going to bring either of them in a wanted form back.
Im in my right mind and we took it from Sadaam and gave it to the people. Word it however you want, it happened.
No, it was the same biased media that wouldnt show me, an American, the bloody gruesome things that were going on in Bosnia.
And I think its pretty ignorant and unfeeling on your part to not keep with my interest of the thread looking at positive aspects. And yes, your ignorance is excused as you failed to read my prior post above this asking for restraint.
Its moments like this, that a moderate like me could become an ultra conservative. God help me....
Originally posted by Expositor
Iraq is another in a long line of failed American Foreign policy strategies.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Has anyone realized that John Glen didn't say this stuff???
Originally posted by The time lord
More people have died in wars between 1990-2000 than the WW2 apparently. The world has not improved that much its just the wars are scattered and solitary.
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
If one remebers but one of those points, thats exaclty what we did while Europe was getting beat down by the Nazis. We stayed back and waited.
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Anyone can do nothing, and if this had been allowed to develop into an invasion by Iraq into any of her neighbors, it may have turned out a bit different.
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
You want to hurt people at random worldwide, you are now on the terror radar. Something that didnt exist collectively before our inititation and action.
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
We are the big boys on the block, and yes, we are doing what we can to tame and structure a free and democratic Iraq.