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Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by Lanotom
Would you be so kind as to add a link to the "plenty of footage"?
Thanks
Here's a clip of the firefighters going into the lobby:
st12.startlogic.com...
The windows are blown out but it doesn't look like much other damage.
Originally posted by turbonium
First we have the JFK "magic bullet theory". Now we might have the WTC "magic smoke theory"! I can't wait for the drawing that shows how the smoke travels instantaneously down the tower, WITHIN the tower, all 70 plus floors down past the lobby, into the basement, then puffs back up and spews out onto the street!! All the while cleverly hidden from view as it snakes down elevator shafts, jumps over to the next shaft, and does it again, then puffs out into view. All in 0.01 seconds time!!
And of course they designed the towers to withstand a 707 hitting them.....but didn't take the FUEL into account. They must have assumed it would be an unfueled 707 launched into the tower with a 200 foot high slingshot!
Originally posted by Lanotom
I am sure the energy would have been dispelled as a horizontal shock more then a vertical one.
two other men trapped and drowning in a basement elevator shaft, were also pulled to safety from underground explosion..
[Rodriguez] heard and felt explosions rock the basement sub-levels of the north tower just seconds before the jetliner struck the top floors.
He not only claims he felt explosions coming from below the first sub-level while working in the basement, he says the walls were cracking around him and he pulled a man to safety by the name of Felipe David, who was severely burned from the basement explosions.
www.capecodonline.com...
[Eric Darton] notes in his book that the buildings, completed in 1972 and 1973, were engineered specifically to withstand the full impact of a 707 jet hitting the superstructure.
www.usatoday.com...
That empty elevator probably plummeted 14 floors into a pit on the 77th floor.
Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Now then, if ya'll don't want to be inconsistent, you better follow the majority, like everyone seems to do here. (IE the world hates the U.S. and opposes the U.S., therefore they are obviously correct )
-wD
In other words, the Buildings WERE NOT DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND THE IMPACT OF A PLANE.
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Sigh. Once again, I will repeat myself.
There was no specific design criteria for the building to withstand the impact of an airplane!
In other words, the Buildings WERE NOT DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND THE IMPACT OF A PLANE.
After the building designs were completed, the structural engineer calculated the effect of an impact on the building.
He did this pre-computer, using many assumptions about the type and speed of the aircraft that are NOT at all comparable to what actually happened.
The Port Authority, eager to reassure potential tenants that the buildings were safe, exaggerated these calculations.
The effect of an impact was NEVER considered in the design process itself.
Originally posted by SMR
Nice post turbonium, but unfortunately you'll just get piss-poor excuses as to why either they lied, or that it cant happen.I already posted that same material in another thread.
I can only hope for the hardest evidence to come out and prove this stuff and see the look on some of these guys faces.To have a plane smack into a building and make it crumble after only a few hours, than have it show off the amount of heat including melted steel.....but I guess OUR information is always false and put together by some nut cases who just want to make things up to make the US Govt look bad for no reason,Maybe they are just Bush haters.
I could care less if it was President Lincoln or the Pope, what happened happened and it was not 'as it seems' as there are liers trying ( or tried at least ) to cover it up.
The day will come when someone slips up and I almost dread that day as I see anarchy filling the streets.So perhaps I really wouldnt want the REAL truth to come out.
Originally posted by turbonium
Demartini, who had an office on the 88th floor of the North Tower, died on 9/11/2001 in the World Trade Center attack.
Architects that designed New York's World Trade Center Towers expressed shock on September 11th that the 110-story landmarks in Lower Manhattan collapsed after each tower was struck by a hijacked passenger jetliner according to MedServ News.
Lee Robertson, the WTC project's structural engineer, addressed the problem of terrorism on high-rises at a conference in Frankfurt, Germany, one week prior to 9/11, according to Chicago engineer Joseph Burns.
Burns said Robertson told the conference, "I designed it for a (Boeing) 707 to hit it."
Burns said Robertson told the conference, "I designed it for a (Boeing) 707 to hit it."