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Originally posted by MrNECROS
Hey, I just went and had a look back at the Bessel site and he's pulled heaps of stuff off of it, now there's a bunch of dead lnks to several subjects and his counters been reset.
Something fishy going on here maybe?
Originally posted by MrNECROS
Hey, I just went and had a look back at the Bessel site and he's pulled heaps of stuff off of it, now there's a bunch of dead lnks to several subjects and his counters been reset.
Something fishy going on here maybe?
Originally posted by MrNECROS
I've posted the Bessel link before but the thread was closed due to Senrak and Sebatwerk wrecking it.
I'm currently ignoring 3 people - are you one of them?
Originally posted by MrNECROS
I've posted the Bessel link before but the thread was closed due to Senrak and Sebatwerk wrecking it.
López de Rojas incorporated in the Rite of the Illuminati Order (Operative Rite of The Illuminated of Bavaria) his experience as high degree in several masonic Rites like Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite (33º), Ancient and Primitive Memphis-Misraïm Rite (96º and 97º), Egyptian Rite…
Initiation System of López de Rojas (Redism) is structured in two Masonic Rites: Illuminati Order's one with thirteen degrees (Operative Rite of The Illuminated of Bavaria) and Societas OTO's one with ten degrees (Operative Rite of Memphis-Misraïm), which have important Masonic degrees.
Originally posted by Nygdan
I think that there is a different, bigger, "OTO" out there tho no?
Originally posted by driley
What about Egyptian Masonry? The Rite of Memphis? Is that still around?
Originally posted by Cug
Ok here goes, First note there was/is an OTO war over who is the "real" OTO, and who gets Crowley's copyrights.. long story..
Originally posted by akilles
Driley, have you come for initiation into Crowley's 11th degree of the OTO?
I wonder why the teachings are spread out the way they are.
It must be cool to learn in person the Secrets of the Knights Templar, just not my cup of tea, you see.
They were a bit 'ultra-Masculine' for my tastes. You know, so manly they didn't even MIND riding behind another man on a horse. All day.
Originally posted by akilles
It must be cool to learn in person the Secrets of the Knights Templar, just not my cup of tea, you see.
They were a bit 'ultra-Masculine' for my tastes. You know, so manly they didn't even MIND riding behind another man on a horse. All day.
I've always wanted to chat to someone about OTO who wasn't an idiot. But, sadly, haven't had the opportunity. Anything you'd like to share, Cug, would be most welcome.
Originally posted by akilles
=They were a bit 'ultra-Masculine' for my tastes. You know, so manly they didn't even MIND riding behind another man on a horse. All day.
Originally posted by driley
In any case, nope. Never been to anything OTO. But from what I've read, it seems significantly unlikely to be homoerotic, if that is your implication. It would appear that a significant portion of the basis of the OTO might be hetero-oriented sex magic.
SUMMARY OF CROWLEY’S SEX MAGICK SYSTEM
VII° Adoration of the phallus as Baphomet, both within and without
VIII° Interaction with something outside the closed vessels of the vagina and the anus
IX° Interaction inside the vagina with either the blood or the secretions of a woman when excited
X° Impregnation + fertilisation of an egg + the act of creation or succession (e.g. election of the OHO)
XI° Two-folded: i) Isolation in the anus where it is considered unable to interact with anything at all ii) interaction with excrements (one of Crowley’s preferred ingredients) and small amounts of blood (when small wounds occur through the intercourse), mucus and of course the mucous membranes that lead directly into the blood supply, etc., etc.