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originally posted by: RAY1990
It's a bit more thorough than that.
www.gov.uk...
I figured a gubment link would be most accurate here.
The previous conviction thing opens up a whole other bunch of reasons to be convicted and put to death.
Some of the language in the law is vague and open to interpretation and it remains unclear how this law will be implemented.
Well, first we are talking about Africa, and over 30 countries there outlaw homosexuality. with over 70 countries worldwide...
Seems people are also interpreting as they feel too, so who the hell knows...lol
originally posted by: RAY1990
Time will tell. History often gives good indication though. It seems another issue that's being raised is AIDS/HIV and the potential for people to not seek treatment due to persecution. It makes sense too since people will attempt to hide aspects of themselves when put into a hostile environment.
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
and those laws are for the most part passed to control the spread of HIV in these poor African countries.
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: Xtrozero
Well, first we are talking about Africa, and over 30 countries there outlaw homosexuality.
and those laws are for the most part passed to control the spread of HIV in these poor African countries.
originally posted by: RAY1990
Personally I don't differentiate on human rights. One of the worst insults (or best) is saying to someone "Nobody asked you to be Mexican/gay/black" it doesn't matter to me what that characteristic is when it cannot be changed.
If a human cannot live freely with non changeable characteristics then the affects are absolutely detrimental to the human condition. When a nation is actively targeting people with those characteristics then I can only say that country needs to sort it's # out.
I mean you say there's worse human rights violations but what's worse than losing life, limbs and liberty over things that cannot be controlled? Such as being a certain sex, skin colour, sexuality or religion.
Statistically such moves might make sense although it's a stigmatized statement right? Gays get the aids...
Just like stigmas the reality on the ground is a little different. People with HIV are treated and when it's done right they are no longer spreading it. I can't fathom why people would refuse to seek treatment when governments are actively targeting people who are associated with the disease.
The difference is that "gay" is based on behaviors while Mexican or Black is not. Behaviors are differentiated in every country at some level.
Well, welcome to the last million years of the human race... I would say most countries need to sort their sh!t out at some level. I guess RAY100 let's make something like an inclusive and diversity Czar, wait...that hasn't worked so well either
A gay man has massive rights over a woman or child in these same countries as long as that man doesn't act on their behavior and gets caught. Women treated as if they were cattle/property their whole lives, or children used as hard slave labor I would say is worst than someone not being able to act on their sexual desires.
Gays are still the highest risk group for HIV, but I would say Africa is different when in some countries like 80% of the population has it. Still, opening giving someone HIV is very bad, as is sexually abusing children etc.
We are talking about Africa here...
By 2021, 89% of people living with HIV in Uganda knew their status, more than 92% of them were receiving antiretroviral therapy, and 95% of those on treatment were virally suppressed, they said in their statement.
"Together as one, we call for the Act to be reconsidered so that Uganda may continue on its path to ensure equitable access to health services and end Aids as a public health threat by 2030," the statement said.
originally posted by: RAY1990
I will say that outlawing homosexuality is akin to outlawing master bating. People are born to do it and will find a way regardless of peer pressure...
I would too. I feel I put enough mentions of human rights in general to get my point across without going off topic. End of the day the legislation in this matter points towards humans being killed for what some might call a sexual preference. Again this isn't a thread about human psychology so I kind of stuck to the human rights issues, it doesn't get more serious than dead... Right?
Can you not see a potential for gay people not seeking diagnosis or treatment? Yeah like you said it's Africa, crazy amounts of superstitions and stigmas to deal with.
originally posted by: vNex92
The Biden admin and Liberals are complaining that Uganda had passed recently a anti LGBT law.
The Biden admin are now preparing to place Sanctions agaisnt Uganda over their Anti LGBT law.
Not a single MSM outlet nor anyone in the Biden admin had being complaining about the anti LGBT laws agaisnt the LGBT communities in the Middle East or the certain killings of LGBT minorities by ME dictators.
Biden calls for repeal of Uganda’s anti-gay law, threatens sanctions
“This shameful Act is the latest development in an alarming trend of human rights abuses and corruption in Uganda. The dangers posed by this democratic backsliding are a threat to everyone residing in Uganda, including U.S. government personnel, the staff of our implementing partners, tourists, members of the business community, and others,” Biden wrote after lawmakers passed the law, which Uganda’s president subsequently signed into law.
We are not in disagreement, but both are once again behaviors where being Black is not, so stop suggesting things are alike when they are not. Pedophilia is behavior too...
I guess you missed the point... a behavior can be acted on or not... A woman is a woman her whole life 24/7. It's kind of like if drugs are a death pental in a country then don't do drugs there. A woman can not just stop being a woman whereas a gay man can choose not to practice sexuality just as anyone can, and as wrong as those laws may be they are based on acts of behavior. A good number of countries kill women if they cheat on their husband, so don't cheat would be a start. I sound harsh, but one chooses to act on behaviors or not.
I think the law talks about if a person knowingly gives another person HIV, not that a person just happens to be HIV.
There are 10s of millions of women that lack human rights and I don't see Biden ever screaming we need to scantion X countries over it.
originally posted by: RAY1990
Are you saying it's ok to deny these things because they are simply behaviours?
# Biden. He's just a figurehead and people are obsessed with cults of personality.
and it feels as if you wish to frame me as being selective on human rights and what's important.
I'm saying Biden is being selective because it just happens to be Pride month.