Satanic Temple’s ‘SatanCon’ in Boston set to be ‘largest satanic gathering in history’

Having the motto "deny ignorance" on the registration page here, shows how many missed that and still are IGNORANT AF.
Maybe if people should do a simple Google search, they would understand that Satanism has nothing to do with Satan from the Bible and the vast majority of Satanists don't even believe in a god or supernatural.

This only shows that religion has brainwashed you into thinking Satanism is bad and related to Satan in the Bible. Not to mention that most Christians think Satanists are involved in horrific practices (which is not true).

The ones you see or hear about praying and doing horrific things are actually rebellious Christians, not Satanists.

Just because they dress up differently and you are afraid of them and the word Satan, doesn't mean they are bad... the majority of them are better humans than Christians and care more about the world and living things. But of course, most Christians and religious people won't accept that and will continue to spread misinformation about them.

originally posted by: rollyro
Having the motto "deny ignorance" on the registration page here, shows how many missed that and still are IGNORANT AF.
Maybe if people should do a simple Google search, they would understand that Satanism has nothing to do with Satan from the Bible and the vast majority of Satanists don't even believe in a god or supernatural.

This only shows that religion has brainwashed you into thinking Satanism is bad and related to Satan in the Bible. Not to mention that most Christians think Satanists are involved in horrific practices (which is not true).

What they believe in can be concerning even removing the whole devil aspect of it. The, you can do whatever the F you want and F everyone else doesn't work so well in a society.

a reply to: infolurker

With the state that the world is in, this being the biggest gathering in history doesn't surprise me. That book these people hate and call a fairytale already warned us of how this starts and ends.

And there I was thinking the Bilderbwrgers we’re heading to Boston for the weekend.

a reply to: infolurker

originally posted by: rollyro
Having the motto "deny ignorance" on the registration page here, shows how many missed that and still are IGNORANT AF.
Maybe if people should do a simple Google search, they would understand that Satanism has nothing to do with Satan from the Bible and the vast majority of Satanists don't even believe in a god or supernatural.

This only shows that religion has brainwashed you into thinking Satanism is bad and related to Satan in the Bible. Not to mention that most Christians think Satanists are involved in horrific practices (which is not true).

The ones you see or hear about praying and doing horrific things are actually rebellious Christians, not Satanists.

Just because they dress up differently and you are afraid of them and the word Satan, doesn't mean they are bad... the majority of them are better humans than Christians and care more about the world and living things. But of course, most Christians and religious people won't accept that and will continue to spread misinformation about them.

Been fighting this battle for several years now, homie.

No matter what. Boomers: :0mG tEh SaTaN!

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Atheism is lack of belief in a God. That's it. Nothing more.

However, each individual Atheist -- can/will have their own philosophy.

Lack of belief in a God -- is the only thing that ties them together.

There is no doctrine.

If it wasn't faith-based then they wouldn't try so damn hard to convince everyone and themselves that God doesn't exist. They would treat it more like metaphysics of morals as we would do with Kant, and put as much effort into it as one would with Santa Clause.

Actually, stating "God doesn't exist" would be an individual philosophy.

Lack of Belief does not state God doesn't exist.

When I was in grade school, in the 50s, we had Christmas Pageants -- in public school. We also had Christian prayer time. You were not given a choice. My Jewish friend was not given a choice.

It was a hard fight to change that. And it's still being fought. Why is that? Should atheists just quietly go away?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Mahogany

You cannot prove God does not exist; I cannot prove He does exist.

You believe He's not there. I believe He is.

You're right, you can't prove a negative. Nor should anyone reasonable ask you to. It's a logical fallacy, a failure in reasoning.

I'll explain. A negative cannot be proven, only a positive claim can have proof. If you claimed dragons existed, the onus would be on you to prove your claim. If someone made a claim that dragons didn't exist because no one has ever seen one, that would not require proof.

Gods require proof because no one has seen one, nor can anyone prove any deity's existence. The same thing applies to leprechauns, ghouls, elves or flying pigs. You don't need proof that flying pigs don't exist. It doesn't take faith to know they don't.

But if someone made a claim that pigs could fly, you could reasonably ask them for proof.

Besides, personal beliefs are not evidence. What you believe makes no difference if you can't prove it to another person.

I hope Ozzy can make it.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: 38181

Colonel Aquino "Xepered" and became a "Mindstar" before Covid. I respect his service, but Aquino was a pedantic charlatan pretending to talk to an Egyptian deity he said he made contact with at a beach condo. Egyptology he really didn't know at all. I respectly disagree with his ability to clarify anything.

He had a personality, and manner of interacting, many of us at the occult site he posted at regularly grew to get really sick of. In many ways too fake and conflict averse to like.

RIP in any case.

That only comes off as harsh if you never got into a debate with the guy.

I can remember the AMA thread he did here years ago, when questioned about Vietnam and the hundreds of detention camps like Gitmo that were there and the spraying of VX nerve gas on American service men where the thousands died rather than negotiate with the VK he Knew nothing which for a well read guy considering his role in Vietnam is really surprising . .

Not to worry Hollyweird made a movie based on the exploits of Colonel Bo Grist where RamBO goes in and saves them all then they made the A team and Apocalypse now ,. If we're going to behave like Nazis we may as well dress like them line cracked me up aka Johnstown massacre.

Something tells me Hollyweird will not be making any movies about Mr Aquino

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

I was also thinking about the levels of human freedoms, philosophy and politics and how it all plays out today too, just as I assume you were when you posted that great video of the guy reciting his interesting take on it all. My epiphany in relating the Satanic to the Ten Commandments are the horrifc consequences of following our own freedoms/beliefs at the judgement promised in the study of ancient Hebrew and Aramaic scripture of the bible and the escape from judgement in offered within those witnesses testimony through Yahweh.

a reply to: stonerwilliam

(ATS) got the side of him he felt he was too respected to be exposed. Here, he rode that status of the one thing he did that one time that was psycon related, and exploited his persona to that end.

At the occult site there was a split between the half who respected him and his writing, and the half that would call him a compulsive liar, a long-winded Grampa Munster, a fake, A-queen-o, Mikey, or anything that put him on tilt. He had a running list in his signature of people he was ignoring after they rhetorically annihilated him over something.

And then you hop on over here, and he's playing Col. Jack O'neill with knowledge of the Stargate program. He acted different on each site.

Though he really did say, on more than one occasion, there really was a Stargate, at Cheyenne Mountain no less. Why an Army Colonel would know that is beyond me, but he was a trip. Mostly though, he would plug whatever 1200 page book he had just vomited.

Really hard person to believe anything he said.

a reply to: Degradation33

He did come across as a extremely well read man ,but he was claiming a title of some sort in Scotland which can be purchased very easily for as little as a bottle of whiskey or a few hundred bucks bought you a foot of ground on some inhabited island, much like buying a plot on the moon .

a reply to: Mahogany

And your personal belief on this topic where God is concerned is still very much an article on faith because you don't and can't know any more than I can.

There is too much neither of us knows in order for either of us to be certain outside the realm of belief.

I don't see how an atheist (no God or gods) can call themself a Satanist (since Satan is a spiritual entity).

maybe 'Satan' to them is a code word for antiGod. "I'm antiGod therefore I'm Satanic."

their 'Fundamental Tenets' are nothing like what the Satan in the Bible does.

I always thought Satanism was based on 'Do what thou wilt'.

the Established Faith plans to counter

www.foxnews.com...

A group of Christians plans to attend SatanCon in Boston this week to pray for the attendees of what is being described as "the largest satanic gathering in history."
The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston has also called for "intense prayer" in response to the event, according to Catholic News Agency.

for every action there is...

I just hope no violence. from either side.

a reply to: stonerwilliam

Never heard of the vx gassing pows, news to me. Unless you are mistaking agent orange. This wasn’t some sort of movie back then, it was pure f’ing hell.

Thought I'd revisit this post seeing it in the recent threads. On the first page I said Satan means "liar and slanderer." Actually that is what Devil means. Satan means "Resister."

So for an atheist to call themselves Satanists is still relevant in relation to the term. As Satan set himself up as a Resistor to God, and everyone in the world, including those who don't believe in God come under Satan's control. There is no middle ground in the universal war waging between Jehovah God and Satan the Devil. As Jesus himself stated:

"Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."-Matthew 12:30.

Now he was stating that quote in relation to being able to expel demons. He was showing the people that he was not as the false religious leader hypocrites and offspring of vipers accused him, expelling the demons by means of Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons. Rather, he was in control, and had power over the Devil.

Now Jesus called Satan the ruler of the world:

"I will not speak with you much more, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has no hold on me."-John 14:39.

The "world" is wicked humankind alienated from God. The ungodly. People who do not serve Jehovah God. They are all of them, whether they want to believe in God or not, enslaved to the ruler of the world, Satan the Devil.

Going back to that scripture I quoted on the first page at Psalm 14:1 where we are told that the people who don't believe in Jehovah are corrupt and their dealings detestable. One reference work noted this:

("The foolish one says in his heart: “There is no Jehovah.” Their actions are corrupt, and their dealings are detestable; No one is doing good."-Psalm 14:1)

“It never occurred to any writer of the OT [Hebrew Scriptures] to prove or argue the existence of God,” says Dr. James Hastings in A Dictionary of the Bible. “It is not according to the spirit of the ancient world in general to deny the existence of God, or to use arguments to prove it. The belief was one natural to the human mind and common to all men.” This does not mean, of course, that all men at that time were God-fearing. Far from it. Psalm 14:1 and 53:1 both mention “the senseless one,” or as the King James Version says, “the fool,” who has said in his heart, “There is no Jehovah.”

What kind of person is this fool, the man who denies the existence of God? He is not intellectually ignorant. Rather, the Hebrew word na·valʹ points to a moral deficiency. Professor S. R. Driver, in his notes to The Parallel Psalter, says that the fault is “not weakness of reason, but moral and religious insensibility, an invincible lack of sense, or perception.”

The psalmist goes on to describe the moral breakdown that is a result of such an attitude: “They have acted ruinously, they have acted detestably in their dealing. There is no one doing good.” (Psalm 14:1) Dr. Hastings sums up: “Counting on this absence of God from the world and on impunity, men become corrupt and do abominable deeds.” They openly embrace ungodly principles and discount a personal God to whom they have no wish to be accountable. But such thinking is as foolish and senseless today as it was when the psalmist wrote his words over 3,000 years ago.

So it goes. The advent of the "new morality" started in the 1920's and leading up to the "gender blurring" of today. When one acts out against the moral standards of Jehovah God whether they claim to believe he exists or not, they are acting corrupt and detestable, although pure in their own eyes. How aptly the Proverb applies to this generation that says:

"There is a generation that is pure in its own eyes But has not been cleansed from its filth."-Proverbs 30:12.

originally posted by: ElGoobero
I don't see how an atheist (no God or gods) can call themself a Satanist (since Satan is a spiritual entity).

maybe 'Satan' to them is a code word for antiGod. "I'm antiGod therefore I'm Satanic."

their 'Fundamental Tenets' are nothing like what the Satan in the Bible does.

I always thought Satanism was based on 'Do what thou wilt'.

Satan can be many things once you get past the window dressing and red guy.

Satan can get redefined deisticly. Satan becomes a "divine entropy" as it were. A default "natural order", which is the aberration of organization and design in chaos. The totality of everything interconnecting casually or not. A constant wheel of adversity churning along, rolling things under, and generating the new as disorder increases. Always waiting on "the next".

Satan is simultaneously a rebel archetype for an antinomian core. A rebel personality type. That's what "Born, not made" means in Satanism, the born personality type.

The example my be with Lucifer. He rebelled over hypocrisy. He essentially gave up everything over his personal ethos. A personal governance above any other. He look such personal issue with a dictate given he was willing to take a harder road to have his pride and individuality. Flaming sword and all.

That's pretty much the archetype. The prideful rebel. It's not necessarilly spiritual or against God, but a stand in for ethical self-governance. One usually prone towards self-immolation when pushed hard enough against their will.

It be like if a Sakya prince took such issues with the hypocrisy of the caste system that he gave up nobility and privilege to cut off his hair with a sword and go sit penniless under a tree until dying of rotten meat.

Yup Buddha, took a Lucifer "Satanic" stand.

Here is a tidbit you dont have to give two craps about, The movie version of Braveheart is a VERY SATANIC PERSONALITY TYPE. You can laugh, but it meets the criteria. He took issue with status quo to the point he would defy endlessly, individually lead the fight, and die still spitting on the English.

Jesus was also one hell of a star in the eastern sky.

It's a thing you either get or you don't. A tendency of personality. One that speaks though actions.

And in even stranger aeons the devout Christian that uses their christian ethics to hold off an authoritative onslaught against their will, and is willing to give up everything to defy it, is also "satanic".

And the 8 year old kid, who will just not accept pronouns and being indoctrinated by the woke? The one going through great lengths to subvert his instructors and the status quo? Even though he has liberal parents. He is also acting satanically.

You can defy with humor too. Can be clever, but there will be some taboo transgression somewhere. It's attainment through autodeification, after all. It's the tendency to want to act in defiance of the status quo and claiming yourself your own highest authority. It just works out most people (not all) with this tendency take extreme issues with an abstraction (faith or idea) based status quo. Being told to use something unnecessary like a certain religious precept.

But that might change down the road, and already is as PC becomes the next religious precept.

There is a really fine line between rebel and martyr.

And that's how you take a spiritual being and make it something completely different that can line up with atheism. And without tenets and political pandering.

originally posted by: Degradation33

originally posted by: ElGoobero
I don't see how an atheist (no God or gods) can call themself a Satanist (since Satan is a spiritual entity).

maybe 'Satan' to them is a code word for antiGod. "I'm antiGod therefore I'm Satanic."

their 'Fundamental Tenets' are nothing like what the Satan in the Bible does.

I always thought Satanism was based on 'Do what thou wilt'.

Satan can be many things once you get past the window dressing and red guy.

Satan can get redefined deisticly. Satan becomes a "divine entropy" as it were. A default "natural order", which is an aberration of organization in chaos. A constant wheel of adversity churning along, rolling things under, and generating the new as disorder increases. Always waiting on "the next".

Satan is simultaneously a rebel archetype for an antinomian core. A rebel personality type. That's what "Born, not made" means in Satanism, the born personality type.

The example my be with Lucifer. He rebelled over hypocrisy. He essentially gave up everything over his personal ethos. A personal governance above any other. He look such personal issue with a dictate given he was willing to take a harder road to have his pride and individuality. Flaming sword and all.

That's pretty much the archetype. The prideful rebel. It's not necessarilly spiritual or against God, but a stand in for ethical self-governance. One usually prone towards self-immolation when pushed hard enough against their will.

It be like if a Sakya prince took such issues with the hypocrisy of the caste system that he gave up nobility and privilege to cut off his hair with a sword and go sit penniless under a tree until dying of rotten meat.

Yup Buddha, took a Lucifer "Satanic" stand.

Here is a tidbit you dont have to give two craps about, The movie version of Braveheart is a VERY SATANIC PERSONALITY TYPE. You can laugh, but it meets the criteria. He took issue with status quo to the point he would defy endlessly, individually lead the fight, and die still spitting on the English.

Jesus was also one hell of a star in the eastern sky.

It's a thing you either get or you don't. A tendency of personality. One that speaks though actions.

And in even stranger aeons the devout Christian that uses their christian ethics to hold off an authoritative onslaught against their will, and is willing to give up everything to defy it, is also "satanic".

And the 8 year old kid, who will just not accept pronouns and being indoctrinated by the woke? The one going through great lengths to subvert his instructors and the status quo? Even though he has liberal parents. He is also acting satanically.

You can defy with humor too. Can be clever, but there will be some taboo transgression somewhere. It's attainment through autodeification, after all. It's the tendency to want to act in defiance of the status quo and claiming yourself your own highest authority. It just works out most people (not all) with this tendency take extreme issues with an abstraction (faith or idea) based status quo. Being told to use something unnecessary like a certain religious precept.

But that might change down the road, and already is as PC becomes the next religious precept.

There is a really fine line between rebel and martyr.

And that's how you take a spiritual being and make it something completely different that can line up with atheism. And without tenets and political pandering.

Satan means Resistor. So you are correct in the above to a certain extent. He was a rebel to authority, resisted it. That is why Romans 13:1 says: “Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.”

Christians maintain Christian neutrality. The Bible clearly teaches that the real ruler of the world is Satan the Devil and he is in control of the policial system of things. My thread When All Governments Will No Longer Exist goes into detail explaining this.

Yet when a government tries to coerce worship that belongs to God, or commands a Christian to do what is against God’s will, for example fight in war and perhaps shed their brother’s life, they are in God’s eyes under NO obligation to obey human rulers. As human rulers are put into the relative positions in relation to God. God’s authority is absolute. You are not being Satanic or showing such a spirit when resisting commands of man that are contrary to those of God. Jehovah’s law and rule trumps all.

a reply to: randomuser

In your religious context, you're staying soundly on the path of the righteous, doing what is just and not acting Satanic. Absolutely. I'm sorry if I gave that impression.

But, in some versions of Satanism, it shifts the reasons, motivations, and moral righteousness, above and out of any one specific dynamic. And to a context of simply "orthodox" and "heterodox". Heterodox = Sinister = Satanic = Left handed = antinomian.

It's transitive and without an affixed morality. It simply defines orthodox as the prevailing environment.

It does this because it views the "natural resistor", even a Christian in Pagan Rome, as a necessary resistor. The way nature works and refines itself. The "Satanic" constantly pushing against and getting pushed by whatever environment is present.

Why it uses Satan from a specific christian meaning is a misnomer. And very misleading.

It could be called the generator, the resistor, the dark force of entropy, the architect, the postmodern master, and on and on. The ever present organizing principle for why life is driven to thrive through chaos and adversity and fight for itself. And refine and strengthen itself against it.

In almost all cases it emphasizes a need for a compass of some type simply because orthodox morality is so transitive and ill-defined by human abstraction, and nature is without instrinsic will. It's very honor based for these reasons.

It's also a very nebulous and abstract (mostly misunderstood) concept to get to heart of abstractions and why people defy them and their environment.