The West Is Preparing for Russia’s Disintegration

a reply to: JAY1980

How do you believe the world majority isn't NATO?

Wiki could have enlightened you a bit.

BRICS is an acronym for five leading economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

By 2020, America's GDP might be only slightly larger than China's GDP. Together, the four BRICs may account for 41% of the world's market capitalization by 2030, the report said. In late 2010, China surpassed Japan's GDP for the first time, with China's GDP standing at $5.88 trillion compared to Japan's $5.47 trillion.

41% in 2030! We're in 2023.

I'd look up NATO for you but I don't really feel like listing all of the countries involved. I'm pretty sure it's more than 5 though.

Something else quite important that shuts all of this down.

BRICS isn't a military alliance

NATO is.

a reply to: JAY1980

"The majority of the planet is tired of America and NATO. Have you not heard of BRICS? We are being phased out. Just because you don't see it on whatever subscribed news outlet you consume doesn't mean it isn't happening."

So, BRICS is the majority of the Planet? Like, five countries? How many member countries does NATO have?

NATO is a military mutual defence alliance.

BRICS, isn't.

You seem full of hatred for the West. That's very sad.

You might like to base that hatred on reality and actual facts, then, and only then, you may have a valid and credible point.

a reply to: Timber13

You beat me to it!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda

Bio weapons labs in Ukraine?

Got any evidence?

Yea, Russia said they're there, the US denied it. Good enough evidence for me.

But you know, there's stuff like this:

CSPAN
Senator Rubio Questions Undersecretary Nuland Over Biolabs in Ukraine

During her testimony in front of the Senate Foreign Relations committee about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland answers a question from Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) about whether or not Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons. She replies, "Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned...Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of." She then refutes allegations from Russia that Ukrainians are plotting to use biological weapons, and says that if such an attack happens in Ukraine, "there is no doubt in my mind" it would be caused by Russian forces.

So 100% verified, bio labs in Ukraine, and they're worried Russia might get ahold of them. Why?

Anything developed legally, in accordance with US Law, Geneva Conventions, etc..., would be of no consequence. Known pathogens and cures would already be known by Russia, wouldn't they? Even basic research into cures and new diseases would be shared....

Unless these are privately/secretly funded labs working towards patents for cures for novel diseases...

a reply to: rounda

100% fake Russian propaganda:

voxukraine.org...

Her words taken out of context.

Try to find a better excuse for Putin's war.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda

100% fake Russian propaganda:

voxukraine.org...

What are you trying to debunk?

Vox literally says the US has been funnelling money into Ukrainian bio labs...

originally posted by: rounda
So 100% verified, bio labs in Ukraine,

It shows you how pernicious and persuasive Russian propaganda has been, and how it persists long after it has been debunked.

I guess if you want to believe something is true, you'll believe it, even after it has been shown to be a lie.

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a reply to: paraphi

PM me and I 'll give him my bank details. I'm sure he wants to send me loads of 🤑💰.

a reply to: rounda


Lots of countries have biological research labs. For biological research.

That does not make them bioweapons labs.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda


Lots of countries have biological research labs. For biological research.

That does not make them bioweapons labs.

Deny ignorance, ftw.

Your own "debunking" link says the US has been pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into bio labs in Ukraine and you still towe the line.

2010

USAF COUNTERPROLIFERATION CENTER CPC OUTREACH JOURNAL

BioPrepWatch.com Biolab Opens In Ukraine
by Tina Redlup
June 17, 2010
U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar applauded the opening of the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine, this week, announcing that it will be instrumental in researching dangerous pathogens used by bioterrorists.

The level-3 bio-safety lab, which is the first built under the expanded authority of the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program, will be used to study anthrax, tularemia and Q fever as well as other dangerous pathogens.

"The continuing cooperation of Nunn-Lugar partners has improved safety for all people against weapons of mass destruction and potential terrorist use, in addition to advancements in the prevention of pandemics and public health consequences," Lugar said.

Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu.

The Nunn-Lugar Act, which established the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, was established in 1991. Since that time it has provided funding and assistance to help the former Soviet Union dismantle and safeguard large stockpiles of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. The program has also been responsible for destroying chemical weapons in Albania, Lugar said.

a reply to: anonentity

"As long as you are happy with the puppet government in Ukraine."

Well, the people of Ukraine weren't very happy with their last Russian puppet government and I'm fairly sure they don't exactly relish the thought of having another one?

a reply to: rounda

Did you actually read what you quoted from your link?!!!!!!

a reply to: rounda

thebulletin.org...

"Although Russia is highly secretive with regard to its biological research enterprise, and there is no definitive proof of an extant bioweapons program, the public record strongly suggests that Russia has maintained and modernized the surviving parts of the Soviet biological weapons program. For instance, the Russian government repeatedly admitted and then, in subsequent years, repeatedly denied inheriting a large part of the Soviet biological weapons program. Also, there are public signs of continuing research into biological weapons (including non-lethal biological weapons) at several locations in Russia. Meanwhile, discussion and policy decisions regarding so-called genetic weapons demonstrate the Russian leadership’s obsession with the idea of a new generation of advanced bioweapons."


So, how do you feel about Russia's bio weapons stocks and developement programme in actual biolabs?

When faced with such a threat does it not make sense to do some research, not to produce weapons, but to study and counter such a threat?

Good job that the UK did so with Novichok or there would have been a dead Policeman in Salisbury.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda

Did you actually read what you quoted from your link?!!!!!!

Did you?

It says Senator Luger and Senator Barack Obama opened a bio-chemical weapons laboratory in Ukraine in 2010.

Coincidentally, this same lab would aid in studying avian flu pandemics...

a reply to: rounda

"The continuing cooperation of Nunn-Lugar partners has improved safety for all people against weapons of mass destruction and potential terrorist use, in addition to advancements in the prevention of pandemics and public health consequences," Lugar said."

From your quote.

What's wrong with doing that?

You are just parroting debunked Russian propaganda.

Don't see any outrage from you about Russia's own bio chemical weapons labs and huge stockpile.

As used in my home city.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda

"The continuing cooperation of Nunn-Lugar partners has improved safety for all people against weapons of mass destruction and potential terrorist use, in addition to advancements in the prevention of pandemics and public health consequences," Lugar said."

From your quote.

What's wrong with doing that?

You are just parroting debunked Russian propaganda.

Don't see any outrage from you about Russia's own bio chemical weapons labs and huge stockpile.

As used in my home city.

Let me guess, you didn't mind the Russians setting up shop in Cuba, either.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda

"The continuing cooperation of Nunn-Lugar partners has improved safety for all people against weapons of mass destruction and potential terrorist use, in addition to advancements in the prevention of pandemics and public health consequences," Lugar said."

From your quote.

What's wrong with doing that?

You are just parroting debunked Russian propaganda.

Don't see any outrage from you about Russia's own bio chemical weapons labs and huge stockpile.

As used in my home city.

Given recent history there is a certain irony about pro Russian posters outrage on this topic.

a reply to: rounda


Why ask me that?

What's the Cuban Missile Crisis got to do with anything?

Back on topic, do you mind Russia's own bio chemical weapons program, and them actually using it?

Like they did a few hundred yards from where I was at the time?

a reply to: rounda

Senator Barack Obama opened a bio-chemical weapons laboratory in Ukraine in 2010.

Obama was President and not a Senator in 2010.

Getting the simple things wrong, is usually a sign of ...................you know what.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rounda


Why ask me that?

What's the Cuban Missile Crisis got to do with anything?

Back on topic, do you mind Russia's own bio chemical weapons program, and them actually using it?

You don't see how Russia putting nuclear weapons in Cuba has to do with the US operating biochemical weapons labs on the border of Russia?

You don't see how Russia putting nuclear weapons in Cuba has to do with NATO expanding to Russia's borders?

What are we even talking about then?

Towe that line.