The West Is Preparing for Russia’s Disintegration

a reply to: TheGreazel

snowden is alive because he left.

Julian Assange faces medical conditions in Prison according to his family lawyer.





If Snowden didn't he wouldn't get a fair trail.

a reply to: TheGreazel

Russians who went up against Putin.

Some of you are quite obsessive with Putin this and Putin but have no issues with Boris Yeltsin regime.

That same Yeltsin Regime which put millions of Russians without money and people were struggling to survive during the mid 90s of course MSM didnt seem to mind his polices.

a reply to: vNex92


Russia is backing right now coup d'état in Sudan Africa , Wagner group etc....it started years ago with talks in Kremlin . The end result of that adventure could mean disintegration of Sudan...and years of war.

a reply to: vNex92

Probably because some of us live in the present and not the past?

a reply to: Kenzo

Russia is backing right now coup d'état in Sudan

How is that any different from US supporting the other side? as they were supporting the so called "Rebels" in Syria?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

The ironic thing is, Russia had plenty of options available to influence Ukraine that didn't involve conventional war.

Hey huh haven't you forgotten that America is the one who had regime changed the last democratically elected goverment of Ukraine on 2013?

Remember victoria nuland visiting and congratulating the protestors on a job well done?


Victoria Nuland gives food for demonstration people in Ukraine

Wake up. Ukrainian people got tired of Moscow's thug in Kyiv.

Again: Russia had plenty of options to influence Ukraine.

Unfortunately, Russia had a guy in power who has only one tool in his bag: war.

Even you have to admit that waiting 30 YEARS to react to Ukraine becoming an independent power was stupid on the part of Putin AND Russia.

But Putin doesn't understand we're not in 1985 anymore. And he wants to wage war instead of admitting that times have changed.

Cheers

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Regime Change in Russia what brought Putin to Power.
The U.S. Needs to Face Up to Its Long History of Election Meddling

America made it sure that Yeltsin has an easy victory in Russia.

a reply to: vNex92

Now who is obsessed with Yeltsin?

And the distant past?

Live in the present. Not the past.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Wake up. Ukrainian people got tired of Moscow's thug in Kyiv.

You mean those so called protestors that were largely bused into Kiev by white unmarked buses? i remember watching the protest on a stream a few years ago.

The whole protest was set up to make it appear that as all Ukrainians were demonstrating.


In the Capital of Kiev of the street square they even set up a tent place where protestors could write letters to their loved ones and friends apparently.


A small tent.

The protestors waited for hours for the arrival of their Sen John McCain and Murphy to rally them.




Imagine Chinese and Russian officials doing what Americans had being doing for years like this in other countries.

McCain, Murphy Rally Ukraine Protesters



This regime change in Ukraine is what also had started the war in Ukraine in Eastern Ukraine.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

The protest in Kiev was actually not that large.
A number of those protestors werent even Ukrainians, a few them were Belarusian students.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You dont learn well of History do you now?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Live in the present. Not the past.
Some of you are not living in the present, Americans who are calling the destruction of Russia and China are living in the past.

If anyone needs to be get out this cold war era mentally it is Some Westerns/Americans.

The other thing that "the West", China, and any country bordering Russia should consider and be prepared for, is the contingency that Russia does NOT collapse. Again, far better to be prepared than caught by surprise.

We all know at some point Putin will be gone. At that point, the big boys in Russia have a choice: get their act together and not allow Russia itself to collapse, or, be stupid and greedy and get into a civil war to see who gets to call the shots in the Kremlin.

Might surprise Vnex to know I would prefer that Russia does NOT collapse. A civil war there would be a disaster for Russia as well as huge problems for a lot of other countries. But Putin ... he needs to go. Not only has he launched an aggressive war in Europe, but from the Russian perspective, his recent decisions have been disastrous.

Cheers

a reply to: vNex92

That's rich. Putin is fighting an artillery war, using WW1 tactics. Seems he hasn't learned from history.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Worry not of Russia as it wont be collapsing any time soon.

Unfortunately i cant say the same about America or Western Europe for that matter.


Considering the social stigma and social hierarchy which is at free fall.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: vNex92

That's rich. Putin is fighting an artillery war, using WW1 tactics. Seems he hasn't learned from history.

Yep, "Lions led by donkeys" comes to mind.

Cheers

Well, Russia has made itself an enemy by living in the past and pretending the Russian Empire of old can be resurrected. Couple that with continual belligerence and interference with several sovereign nations e.g. Georgia, and the brutal invasion of Ukraine that has resulted it an extraordinary level of destruction and harm.

Is it really a wonder the civilised world wants to see Russia broken?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Worry not of Russia as it wont be collapsing any time soon.

Unfortunately i cant say the same about America or Western Europe for that matter.


Considering the social stigma and social hierarchy which is at free fall.

Hey--

The topic of YOUR thread is "The West Is Preparing for Russia’s Disintegration"

How about staying ON TOPIC in YOUR thread ?

You are getting a lot of solid comments as replies. At least respond on topic to the comments being made.

That is not much to ask ... Брат

Cheers

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Russia already has superiority in the air in Ukraine.

What happened to Ukraine's airfields? all got magically repaired?

Seems he hasn't learned from history.

It seems if anyone hasnt learned from history who try to Destroy Russia it is the Westerns/America.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

"whataboutism"