Stoltenberg Stresses Ukraine Belongs In NATO, Russia was Right.

My thoughts of this is not surpisng that the American govt, EU, West lied to Russians about keeping Ukraine neutral and with its neutral independence policy.

Not only do they want Ukraine into EU but also into NATO. NATO expanding further and further to Russia.
Which their objective had being only thing.

What they want is the destruction of Russia as a whole state, nation and civilization.

The US never wanted peace nor any good relations with Russia what is happening in Eastern Europe with the Balkans and in Ukraine shows this unfortunate route that the US had taken.

What US is doing in Europe is no different from what the Germans had tried to do in the past wars.


The deep state is in control of US.
With the aims of destroying Russia and Europe.



Stoltenberg Visits Kiev In 1st Since War's Start, Stresses Ukraine Belongs In NATO

Stoltenberg further said that Ukraine should be in NATO. "Ukraine's rightful place is in NATO, and over time our support will help to make this possible. We stand by you today and for the long haul," the NATO chief said.

To use Ukraine agaisnt Russia as they are doing so now.

The only difference now is publicly they dont want to admit that this war in Ukraine is a war between Russia and NATO.



Russia's suspicions about Ukraine and US pushing it into EU/NATO further expanding this union.

The only problem currently is that Europe is the one that experiencing facing economic hurls unlike the countries in Asia who are getting the benefits.


The US/UK had being trying to black mail India trying to get off Russian cheaper Energy.

ukraine did a big mistake by wanting to join nato, letting in cia ops and soros to overthrow the government with colour revolutions and shooting at separatists.
and because of that and western moron politics our economy is in free fall.
is ukraine worth all that?
how do you feel while suffering for the mistakes of one of the most corrupt countries on earth?

why didn't we care for iraq or lybia as they got attacked because of lies and propaganda?
oh wait, that was us. and we're the good ones, i forgot.

a reply to: vNex92

Ah yes, link to " Zero Hedge " a pro-Russian blog.

No surprise there then.

a reply to: vNex92

Your thoughts are increasingly more and more desperate Russian propaganda.

Sad, but true.

By the way, this is not about the EU/ NATO expanding anything.

It's about Putin's failing War and his murderous invasion.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Our " friend " needs to be reminded of this.

Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance.

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: vNex92

Just going to point something out to ya.
Ukraine was neutral and dealing with internal matters to continue to gain membership into the EU. As what the people voted for till Putins lapdog last minute backed out of talks.
Then Putins lapdog fled in the middle of the night to where you may ask.....well if you guessed America you would be incorrect.
Russia is the answer.
So now that Putins lapdog is out of Ukraine Putin didn't have really anymore political influence.
So he invaded as per usual.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Ukraine was neutral

The price for Ukraine becoming independent a province from Russia was for Ukraine to be neutral.

It was the price that the US had agree with Russia to remove any WMDs that soviets had in Ukraine if Ukraine was meant to be a nation.

The West continue to lie to Russia than you wonder why Russia responded the way they did?

a reply to: alldaylong

Ah yes Anyone who doesnt agree with me is a Pro Trump or Nazi or Russian errrrrrrrrr

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
It seems Europe is the one experiencing more economic hardships than China, India, Russia.

Oh well at least Europe shouldn't had listened/followed orders of the US.

a reply to: vNex92

Well seeing as the counter offensive has yet to begin as Ukraine is still waiting on some toys to play with.
Hell the Patriot missiles just arrived.
Much more from other countries should be arriving very soon.
Trust me you will know when it starts.
I don't know what the outcome will be but I have a pretty good idea of what may happen.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Ukraine was neutral

The price for Ukraine becoming independent a province from Russia was for Ukraine to be neutral.

It was the price that the US had agree with Russia to remove any WMDs that soviets had in Ukraine if Ukraine was meant to be a nation.

The West continue to lie to Russia than you wonder why Russia responded the way they did?

This is completely wrong.

Ukraine agreed to give up Nuclear weapons it had inherited in return for Russia respecting its borders (which it hasn't done)

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: alldaylong

Ah yes Anyone who doesnt agree with me is a Pro Trump or Nazi or Russian errrrrrrrrr

Maybe if your sources where of a neutral nature and not pro-Russian, people may actually take you seriously.

Give it a try, it may surprise you.

a reply to: vNex92

Again ? Did Europe or America suffer when Russia/CCCP collapsed ? No
Who suffered during Russia/CCCP collapses... yes it was russian people.

I feel sorry for you and your continious attemps of rewriting history and fooling yourself.

a reply to: alldaylong

Not necessarily pro Russian, but rather pro truth.

The current US attitude toward Russia is a holdover from WW2 and the cold war era that has no validity today. The Russia of today, unlike the US, is not the Russia of 100 years ago. But our MIC has to have an adversary to maintain their importance and production objectives, regardless of how many hundreds of thousands of people they end up murdering.


I love this nation but I have come to despise and hate this government.

Lol!! You have that backwards old man. You are the Russian propagandist. Hahaha reply to: Oldcarpy2

a reply to: Allaroundyou
Yes sir, Russian forces are going to collapse so hard Putin will be embarrassed. This is my prediction. Russian forces are not even as good as when I trained to fight them back in 1980 lol! Just have to pray Putin is not bad enough to launch those nukes. Then again, his forces are so bad, they would probably nuke themselves 🙄

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Well seeing as the counter offensive has yet to begin

What counter offensive ?
Do you have an "inside" line for us ?
As I have read many different reports , there is not much left to push an "offensive " with .
Counter or not .

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Those all require people to operate...something ukraine is running low on. Not just that but those people have a good 6 months to 1 year of training to actually properly utilize those "toys". Reality is not what they write in the newspaper or show on TV...

a reply to: vNex92

vNex, you're on the wrong side of history. Nobody likes a tyrant.

Russia is the aggressor here. Ukraine didn't attack anyone. In fact, they have been at war for a year now, and Ukraine is still not attacking Russia. No missiles are going across attacking Russian cities. That's because Russia is the aggressor. And Ukraine has a right to defend their own home, as everyone has a right to defend their own home.

You're supporting a dictator.