Looks like Russia took out a NATO command centre

Just out of morbid curiosity, why would NATO want or need to have such a bunker actually in Ukraine?

What would be the point?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

That's just it, they would not need to and there is no point.

Kyiv's subway stations double as nuclear bomb shelters for the population, the deepest Arsenalna station, being about 346ft.

Also, 300+ missing NATO personnel are going to raise an eyebrow or two.

Whoever came up with this crap has got mad with it and watched Star Wars.

“It's not impossible, I used to bullseye womprats in my T16 back home, they're not much bigger than 2 meters.”

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I mean, you know its bull#, I know it's bull#, the OP knows it's bull# but they keep throwing # against the wall and will see what sticks.

Or more realistically, keep putting enough bull# out there, it muddies the waters and keeps people distracted from the reality of the war. flood the information space with enough ridiculousness and keeps the average person confused and unsure of what is actually happening. I mean biolabs that no one can produce real evidence that they were anything more than standard level 2 labs found through out the world, captured generals that we've never seen paraded about cause ya know, the Russians would keep something like that secret, the the initial invasion was a distraction and they never wanted the whole country and on and on and on and on and on.

The Russian disinformation machine has been in overdrive since April of '21 and we see the products of it all the time. Not that the members posting this bull# are part of the IRA, well, most of them anyway but people who are more prone to believe the bull# because of their own biases.

You couldn't hide a crater from something like this. Not with the yield needed to get that deep. But ya know, Ukraine is EVIL!!!!!! so of course this is true.

a reply to: GAOTU789

"But ya know, Ukraine is EVIL!!!!!! "

So I'm constantly told on here.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2



And yet Ukraine is the one that's being invaded and occupied.

Their towns and cities struck repeatedly with multiple cruise missile strikes and artillery barrages for over a year now.

How dare those evil bastards not capitulate and roll over to the Russian invasion!

a reply to: andy06shake

Sadly, that does appear to be the mindset of a disturbing number of folk on here.

Good job they weren't around during WW2, they'd have had us speaking German.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The thing is and given the mindset some of the twonks demonstrate.

I think a lot of them would be perfectly happy with us all speaking German and doing the goose step.

a reply to: Zaphod58

ut hitting a bunker that deep, and doing that much damage would leave an obvious impact area.

They just Top Gun 2`ed the bunker through a vent that just goes all the way down to the bunker.

Did you see that movie? What's your opinion about the technical validity, if so?

a reply to: TDDAgain

There have been shallow bunkers taken out by going through an air vent. The F-117s took out a Scud bunker through an air vent in Iraq. But a truly deep bunker, designed as a command post is going to have protection against that kind of thing, and the blast wave is only going to propagate so far.

a reply to: andy06shake

Cruise missiles have thousands in f miles range, use your noodle and think. I am not here to hand every one answers they can easily find for themselves. I'm also not interested in wasting time with ignorant frivolous what ifs.

Do some actual research and search, to see for yourself what Russia has done.

Multiple payloads from one bombers is sufficient.

a reply to: ADVISOR

I think you are missing the point.

This bunker is entirely imaginary. It never existed. Let alone did it contain 300 high ranking NATO members.

a reply to: ADVISOR

Cruise missiles have thousands in f miles range, use your noodle and think.

You have already been informed as to the effectiveness where the Russian Kinzhal are concerned penetration-wise.

I am not here to hand every one answers they can easily find for themselves.

You're not providing answers ADVISOR simply mere speculation and hyperbole.

I'm also not interested in wasting time with ignorant frivolous what ifs.

And yet you are the one that brought up DEW and air-launched bunker-busting bombs which come from planes that at present cannot enter or get anywhere near Kyiv's airspace.

Those sound like "what ifs" to me.

Do some actual research and search, to see for yourself what Russia has done.

I'm well aware of the cluster f#c@ Putins special military operation has been since the beginning of the war.

As to research, if you are going on about something in particular, the onus is on you to provide links and evidence to support the claims you make, that's just how we roll here at ATS.

Multiple payloads from one bombers is sufficient.

Multiple payloads of what from one bomber is sufficient?

Russia cant get anywhere near the place with air-launched bunker-busting bombs, and as i have already explained, the Russian Kinzhal are not equipped to take out alleged 400ft deep bunkers with anything other than a nuclear payload.

beyond stupid

a reply to: ziplock9000

Here is a bit more from Clayton, Claiming that the silence is deafening.

a reply to: anonentity

Are you really still pushing this bs?

For shame.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Are you really in denial shame?
Admit it Carpy you and everyone else haven't got a clue what is happening to their taxes. Do you really want to have a war with Russia? I see that a tit-for-tat withdrawal of diplomatic staff has occurred between Germany and Russia. Not a good sign.

a reply to: andy06shake
Not saying it was done just that it would be possible. People always think of nukes in a Hiroshima way. Low yield doesnt have to end in enormous mushroom cloud. more so if your talking a deep underground bunker.

a reply to: PainGod

There would still be seismic evidence.

a reply to: anonentity

I said Months ago , Clayton is repeating Russian propaganda . But you dont want facts that would shut down your illusion, you are in that CULT and want to hear everything that support it, and not things that question it.







Btw, Clayton also flee the country , innocent people dont usually do that There is dozens of law suits against him in US....claiming he run ponzi scheme.

originally posted by: caterpillage
This breaking story is in fact totally true.

I will, in great risk to myself leak the details here, on ATS.

Several months ago there was a leak of monumental proportions from the Ukrainian military pertaining to the nato base in question.
My source has confirmed that the entire set of plans were uploaded to an autonomous AI guided aircraft assistance module. This module was recovered by the Russian military. These plans revealed a flaw in the design of the base, some 400 feet under ground, which otherwise would be impenetrable by any conventional attack.

An attack on the base was put into action by the Russian forces, the odds of success were astronomically against them as the target was only a couple meters wide and had to be hit with great precision. A direct hit, if successful, would result in a chain reaction causing the power plant of the facility to explode with enough force to completely destroy the entire structure.

The attack was approved, and air crews were dispatched. Failure after failure to hit the mark seemed to doom the entire operation, until a very green, and largely unknown pilot named Luca was successful in placing 2 highly advanced, and top secret missles using quantum technology directly into the exhaust vent leading to the power core.

He has been awarded the highest honors for his heroic actions.

I will not reveal my source for this information, so don't ask.

i think i saw that movie.

yeah hard to believe IRL.