Its not about Putin its about Destroying Russia UK Made it Clear

The problem is, Putin has so much control now, that if he collapses, he may well take Russia with him.

And there will no quitting of Putin's ruinous venture while he still has power.

Cheers

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: vNex92
The war in Ukraine which the US/UK had started through the coup 9 years ago had always being about destroying Russia as a nation and civilization.

They made clearly publicly through decolonization of Russia.

Statements that were made by some in the media just a year ago and recently this year time and time they keep calling for a decolonization of Russia.


The West uses Ukraine agaisnt Russia because they knew some in Ukraine had this far right nationalism connection.



Those who are hoping that Russia will and is going to collapse have no sense of history or consequences of what they are trying to push the west into.

I will ask a serious question, but i don't expect an answer.

If you have such hatred of The West, why won't you move from Canada where you live, and locate in a country that meets your ideology ?

good question. but i don't think he's here to discuss or answer questions. he is more like a soldier participating in this war from the comfort of his sofa, i guess.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: vNex92

Imagine being the invading belligerent in Europe’s biggest war since WWII and trying to act like a victim.

Ummm...Imagine being the invading belligerent in...FOUR...countries in the middle east...and acting as if one measly little invasion of the...most corrupt...Nazi infested...country on the Eurasian continent...is somehow the worst incursion since WWII...

Imagine...that...



YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

I agree those things were wrong.

So if they were wrong, it doesn’t justify what’s happening here.

This isn’t measly either, it’s the biggest war in Europe since WWII. And clearly Ukraine doesn’t want to be taken over if they’ve fought tooth and nail.

a reply to: YouSir

I agree those things were wrong.

So if they were wrong, it doesn’t justify what’s happening here.

This isn’t measly either, it’s the biggest war in Europe since WWII. And clearly Ukraine doesn’t want to be taken over if they’ve fought tooth and nail.

I'm confused, exactly how is the UK forcing Russians to fight?

a reply to: YouSir

Those "invasions" were not with the aim of permanently conquering, occupying and annexing. This is different


As for being "Nazi infested", yeah, I guess all of those millions of displaced women and child refugees are the worst, eh?

Of course, Russia is not at all corrupt and is shining beacon of freedom and democracy.

Imagine... that..

I find it ironic how so many members on the right use "communist" as an insult but align themselves with Russia; still a communist country.

Imagine that....

originally posted by: olaru12
I find it ironic how so many members on the right use "communist" as an insult but align themselves with Russia; still a communist country.

Imagine that....

No one on the right is aligning themselves with Russia, that's a big lie. The current administration with it's corrupted CIA nation building agenda created the circumstances that caused "Russia" to "invade" the Ukraine, and it is being used by our current political power base to LAUNDER BILLIONS of dollars.

But it is all okay with you because Russia deserves it for being communists?

Will the real Communists please stand up? Plz get a better education about the world.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Russia invaded Ukraine as a landgrab on false pretenses and in the disastrously mistaken belief that they would win in a very short timeframe.

No one "caused" Putin to do this, it was his clear intention for purely selfish reasons.

Plenty on here supposedly on the right hating on Ukraine and rooting for it's total defeat, even gloating.

Not just ironic, it's just sad to witness, too.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Russia invaded Ukraine as a landgrab on false pretenses and in the disastrously mistaken belief that they would win in a very short timeframe.

No one "caused" Putin to do this, it was his clear intention for purely selfish reasons.

Plenty on here supposedly on the right hating on Ukraine and rooting for it's total defeat, even gloating.

Not just ironic, it's just sad to witness, too.

It's easy to know how false your conclusions are on this because
A: It's a simple parroting of the MSM
B: All the now exposed money laundering done by the USA and allies, and the squandering of hundreds of billions.
C: I have not seen ANYONE rooting for Ukraine's defeat or gloating.
D: You yourself are making sh$t up about this war even faster than the MSM does.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Oh. Putin had the best of intentions for the folk in Ukraine and was just trying to de Nazify them?

That would be parroting famously true Russian propaganda.

Three sides to every story, by the way. Yours, mine and the truth.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: YouSir

Those "invasions" were not with the aim of permanently conquering, occupying and annexing. This is different


As for being "Nazi infested", yeah, I guess all of those millions of displaced women and child refugees are the worst, eh?

Of course, Russia is not at all corrupt and is shining beacon of freedom and democracy.

Imagine... that..

Ummm...I know...right...?

Those incursions were for the express purposes of murdering 270,000 civilians in Iraq alone...and 70,000 in Afghanistan...
not counting of course Libya and Syria...and Yemen...and add nauseam...

And your equivocation falls moot as the US is still occupying both Japan and Germany...all these decades after WWII ended...

So there is that...

So you've apparently closed your eyes and ears to the Battalions of Nazi regulars in the Ukrainian armed forces...

Do you sing song...LA la la la...at the same time...?

Imagine...that...

Bad form old carper...bad form...





YouSir

originally posted by: olaru12
I find it ironic how so many members on the right use "communist" as an insult but align themselves with Russia; still a communist country.

Imagine that....

Ummm...Russia is a capitalist democracy...much more democratic than the patriot act ridden US...

"See something...Say something"...



YouSir

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: YouSir

I agree those things were wrong.

So if they were wrong, it doesn’t justify what’s happening here.

This isn’t measly either, it’s the biggest war in Europe since WWII. And clearly Ukraine doesn’t want to be taken over if they’ve fought tooth and nail.

Ummm...it's measly when juxtaposed with the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed and the millions displaced in just Iraq alone...It's measly when juxtaposed against the made for television..."Shock and awe" campaign waged by the US and it's cohorts in the illegal...NON-UN mandated war to take out the Saddam regime...

All of your justifications fall to ashes on the graves of those hundreds of thousands of innocent men...women...and children...and the many thousands suffering the effects of depleted uranium as..."The good guys" carpeted that country in millions of rounds...

If it makes you sleep better at night...keep your justifications...



YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

I don’t believe two wrongs make a right.

I disagreed with those wars while they were happening and still do. The fact they happened doesn’t mean it’s OK for others to project their will just because we did.

If it makes you sleep better at night...keep your justifications...

Justifying what?

If anything I’m being consistent whether it’s my country or another. Invaders in recent history have been wrong, including my country.

a reply to: YouSir

"And your equivocation falls moot as the US is still occupying both Japan and Germany...all these decades after WWII ended...

So there is that..."

They are?

No, they really aren't.

Seriously?!!!!!!

a reply to: YouSir

"Ummm...Russia is a capitalist democracy...much more democratic than the patriot act ridden US..."

Yes, because if you criticize Putin's War or the Kremlin you get 25 years in Gulag. Are you for real?!!!!!!

www.theguardian.com...

This is fine?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

They have peak democracy as long as you support the right narrative.

And yet there’s a thread about a new Tik Tok policy by the same OP of this one saying it’s because of western authoritarianism against free speech.

People can’t tweet or Tik Tok whatever they want and equate that to lack of freedom of speech while acting like there’s some paradise on the other side of the globe.

Funny, because I can still go to RT in the states. The website isn’t blocked. I can pull up Russian telegrams if I want.

Say the wrong thing over there, you get poisoned, fall out a window, or get imprisoned for decades.

But yea, it’s better over there than it is here.

a reply to: YouSir

Ah. Have you closed your eyes to the Wagner (check that name) mercs who are actual real live Nazis?

Hypocrisy.