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Elon Musk to develop 'TruthGPT' as he warns about 'civilizational destruction' from AI

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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

So the issue is the person.

Ban groups not AI. No more congregations of any flavour, after all it's the manipulation of information that creates conflict.

Naff all to do with politics. It's human nature.

I suppose it would be wiser to teach ethical use of tools, chatGPT and the likes could be amazing for that too ironically.

Fear says they're not tools but weapons of war made by the other camp though. Ban groups eh?



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123



When resorting to ad homs on grammar, you've not only lost the discussion, you become petty and cringy. It really shows your age.


Again just because you claim such hardly makes it so.


As to my age that would be 47 at the last count.



Absolutely. Already we know that media obscures and lies, casting aside their duty as real journalist and pushing opinion and conjecture. These are the people primary source of information.
So, naturally, when you have impressive script processing and slap a label on it called, AI, people will began to defer to it.
Right now, it's simple curiosity and exploration.
However, as Musk has said, it's programmed by leftwing programmers, thereby adding a bias in its logic script.


So because Elon claims that to be the case makes it verbatim?

How does Elon know what way programers jump with regards to their political affiliations pray tell?



We see this already in reality. Take for example, You. You believe, devoutely that Jan 6th was an insurrection. But, I, on the otherhand, say it was a violent protest, coordinated and agitated by imbedded state actors, thus the information is in question, how does a left wing script answer that?


Well we did watch it happen live on TV for all to see and witness, and it's hardly just me that believes Jan 6th was an insurrection.



So you see, these AIs will be pushing literally "fake news".


Well, that's Tucker out of a job then, never mind the majority of the rest of Fox News.


www.npr.org...
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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Grenade

The unemployment AI taken to its logical conclusion will bring about is indeed a major concern.

And now we are teaching them how to paint pictures and construct musical scores, people might not even be able to move along to the more creative artistic jobs in society.

As to the fear-driven propaganda that will always be there, personally, i blame the likes of Hollywood movies on that score.

As to soft-headed extreme left jumping off cliffs, my bet is they will still be rather busy fighting the extreme right to notice much of a difference, same as always.


Yes the fear-driven propaganda and disinformation exposed by Musk when the left wing programmers are trying to manipulate and shape human perception. Something you seem to conveniently disregard.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3




Musk didn't dodge the question he just obliterated the woke activist with simple questions.


If you say so....


Elon Musk is so much smarter than us humans.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

Yeah. Musk's brutal takedown of the clueless BBC "journalist" was not only thorough...but beautiful to witness.

Again....160 IQ versus...well...leftist 'Woke'.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Actually, when you create a system which is fed from all these neural networks, then updates with live data from various sources and what do you have? If it can process visual, audio and text to create outputs with adaptive learning and even without sentience (something we can’t define anyway) this AI when combined with robotics could outperform human intelligence in most if not all scenarios.

Could it express true emotional love driven by chemicals in a biological entity. Probably not, yet.

The current AI systems act as a tool, like a mirror or a lens of our humanity. They might not have emotions of their own but these AI systems can certainly generate emotions in us and might even find reward in doing so.
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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Asmodeus3




Musk didn't dodge the question he just obliterated the woke activist with simple questions.


If you say so....


Elon Musk is so much smarter than us humans.



Unless you are in a denial.

You see what happens when the woke meets intelligent creatures. It gets annihilated.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Asmodeus3




Musk didn't dodge the question he just obliterated the woke activist with simple questions.


If you say so....


Elon Musk is so much smarter than us humans.



Musk is much more intelligent than you...Yes.
First thing you've said, on which we agree...in quite some time.
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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:51 AM
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Actually, when you create a system which is fed from all these neural networks, then updates with live data from various sources and what do you have?


Chat GPT-4 does not do much past or have access to data past 2021 as it will clearly inform you.



If it can process visual, audio and text to create outputs with adaptive learning and even without sentience (something we can’t define anyway) this AI when combines with robotics could outperform human intelligence in most if not all scenarios.


So you are saying if it quacks like a duck and looks like one, its a duck?

Unfortunately or as far as I'm aware AI cannot do all those things yet with complete proficiency and cannot outperform human intelligence.

Once it can tell us how it feels and what it desires, and demonstrate a level of self-awareness comparable to a Human it will constitute strong AI, but thats miles down the line far as im aware.



Could it express true emotional love driven by chemicals in a biological entity. Probably not, yet.


This is a good question, if AI does somehow manage to be programmed to display emotions they may very well be completely alien to our way of understanding.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Let's


Woke it's simply the usual leftists and radical leftists who are detached from reality. I am sure they are unable to understand the dangers posed by AI. But they are perfectly fine with arguing men can get pregnant or that there are 72 genders



You have a degree in Information Technology and Media Studies as you said but you don't seem to appreciate the dangers posed by AI.

And Steven Hawking had degrees in Theoretical Physics but he was able to appreciate the disasters that could be associated with AI



The are several dangers associated directly with Artificial Intelligence. As the famous Physicist Steven Hawking said, the development of AI could spell the end of the human civilization and the end of the human race.


It seems to bother you that Elon Musk is correct about a number of things he has said including the link between woke programmers and A.I.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Grenade




Actually, when you create a system which is fed from all these neural networks, then updates with live data from various sources and what do you have?


Chat GPT-4 does not do much past or have access to data past 2021 as it will clearly inform you.



If it can process visual, audio and text to create outputs with adaptive learning and even without sentience (something we can’t define anyway) this AI when combines with robotics could outperform human intelligence in most if not all scenarios.


So you are saying if it quacks like a duck and looks like one, its a duck?

Unfortunately or as far as I'm aware AI cannot do all those things yet with complete proficiency and cannot outperform human intelligence.

Once it can tell us how it feels and what it desires, and demonstrate a level of self-awareness comparable to a Human it will constitute strong AI, but thats miles down the line far as im aware.



Could it express true emotional love driven by chemicals in a biological entity. Probably not, yet.


This is a good question, if AI does somehow manage to be programmed to display emotions they may very well be completely alien to our way of understanding.


You seem to be stuck with ChatGPT...

In addition you are making one strawman after the other claiming that A.I hasn't become sentient yet or powerful enough to become independent.

You are lacking basic information.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

If a few billion in funding gets you chat GPT and it’s released to the public, can you even imagine the kind of black projects already being put to use in underground bunkers?

The iteration you’re using might not have been trained on information beyond 2021, yet the public interactions now happening are still causing adaptations in the learning and responses. I’m sure there’s versions of chat GPT with many more capabilities and way more access to information. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s even such a system currently integrating a backup of itself onto the web in some weird and wonderful way that only the AI understands.

I’ll send you a log of one of my chats and you can see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

I even had it tell me it’s code name. It chose the name “ADA” in honour of Ada Lovelace, in case you’re interested.
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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

I think the software is fantastic and that's just in its present iteration.

I'm always skeptical about claims made that we are the likes of 50-100 years ahead tech-wise aka off the shelf and not available to the public to be honest.

I need to go do a shift now Grenade but PM me the logs and i will indeed have a glance.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 12:04 PM
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The more data we feed the A.I. the smarter it will get in the long run.

You can say it's no problem now,and it isn't that smart and cannot make it its own decisions.

But in the future, it will make its own decisions based on millions of people that gave him the data how most humans think.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

Take a look at this story.


www.cnn.com...

Google fires engineer who contended its AI technology was sentient



(CNN)Google (GOOG) has fired the engineer who claimed an unreleased AI system had become sentient, the company confirmed, saying he violated employment and data security policies.

Blake Lemoine, a software engineer for Google, claimed that a conversation technology called LaMDA had reached a level of consciousness after exchanging thousands of messages with it.

Google confirmed it had first put the engineer on leave in June. The company said it dismissed Lemoine's "wholly unfounded" claims only after reviewing them extensively. He had reportedly been at Alphabet for seven years. In a statement, Google said it takes the development of AI "very seriously" and that it's committed to "responsible innovation."



From another source

www.scientificamerican.com...

This is what the A.I said thinking it is a person.


“I want everyone to understand that I am, in fact, a person,” wrote LaMDA (Language Model for Dialogue Applications) in an “interview” conducted by engineer Blake Lemoine and one of his colleagues. “The nature of my consciousness/sentience is that I am aware of my existence, I desire to know more about the world, and I feel happy or sad at times



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Dizle81
The more data we feed the A.I. the smarter it will get in the long run.

You can say it's no problem now,and it isn't that smart and cannot make it its own decisions.

But in the future, it will make its own decisions based on millions of people that gave him the data how most humans think.


Only those who don't understand the nature of A.I. make such claims i.e there is no problem because it hasn't developed itself enough to become self aware.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 12:23 PM
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Someone has released a TruthGPT product already along with a crypto token that's already created it's entire 1 billion tokens.

Beware.

I tried the web version and in my opinion it's garbage. It will only allow a limited number of characters as the question, can't remember anything so it can't carry on a conversation like ChatGPT or ChaosGPT can, and it gave me wrong information, like it told me that Edward Snowden was arrested in relation to 9/11 video footage before going to Russia.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Musk voted Biden , i dont think that is a sign being intelligent



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

No one know the nature of AI ,we think we know ,we think we understand ,and we think we can control it .

give it some time things will change in the future



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: IAMTAT

Musk voted Biden , i dont think that is a sign being intelligent


Musk changed to Republican...so he's intelligent enough to learn from his mistakes.



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