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Mr Chairman, yes. Mr Chairman, there are people who identify as different genders who are capable of getting pregnant, that is my position on this and I am not going to feed more on the bigotry of this question
During testimony given at committee today on HB2427, there seems to be confusion over which gender can have a baby. 🤔
HB2427 would increase penalties on those guilty of domestic violence against PREGNANT WOMEN.
This is the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans know only biological women can get pregnant. What's wrong with the left?!
there are several examples where biological males having XY chromosomal make up have given birth even though the right wing conspiracy theorists, bigots, transphobs, and denialists of reality refuse to accept the facts.
originally posted by: seagull
I'm going to assume that you're serious.
Then I'm going to ask you to provide proof of this medical miracle.
I can't help but notice that you don't provide any links to the, no doubt astonishing, proofs of this.
originally posted by: Antimony
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Now think about that. Why on earth would someone who wants to be a man endeavor to be pregnant? Because their trans-female (man pretending to be woman) spouse cannot get pregnant? Or are gay men dating the trans-male (woman pretending to be a man) people and that is why they want to be pregnant? Sounds like they are just throwing noodles at the wall to see what will stick at this point.
There is nothing "male" about being pregnant. It only can happen in a woman with a uterus. So I think they can't really say that they "identify as male" when they want to do the absolute most female thing possible to do, become pregnant and give birth. If they really wanted to be men they would have their uterus removed. If they really thought they were a man, they wouldn't want to be pregnant because that squires the whole deal doesn't it?
originally posted by: nugget1
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: seagull
I'm going to assume that you're serious.
Then I'm going to ask you to provide proof of this medical miracle.
I can't help but notice that you don't provide any links to the, no doubt astonishing, proofs of this.
Links to what? But are we talking common sense?
Just listen to what Ms Rodriguez said in the hearing. Men can get pregnant, she said.
Somebody with an agenda said something on a video posted to the internet so it must be true! You've convinced me; it's 'the science'!
originally posted by: kwakakev
there are several examples where biological males having XY chromosomal make up have given birth even though the right wing conspiracy theorists, bigots, transphobs, and denialists of reality refuse to accept the facts.
Have heard of rare cases where a baby gets born with a mixed up genital situation. Have not heard of a man getting pregnant yet. When day happens can see the artificial womb coming online along with its clones.
So some people are fighting with reality being a bigot for now. Sucks to be them.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Common sense...
I suppose there could be aberrant births out there, rare though they undoubtedly are, where chromosomes are mixed up.
However, men, generally speaking do not, can not, become pregnant, and no amount of impassioned rhetorical flourishes, and wishful thinking will make it so.
Now then... LInks?? If it's just so common, there must be some, right??
Is it possible?
Yes, it’s possible for men to become pregnant and give birth to children of their own. In fact, it’s probably a lot more common than you might think. In order to explain, we’ll need to break down some common misconceptions about how we understand the term “man.” Not all people who were assigned male at birth (AMAB) identify as men. Those who do are “cisgender” men. Conversely, some people who were assigned female at birth (AFAB) identify as men. These folks may be “transgender” men or transmasculine people.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: Antimony
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Now think about that. Why on earth would someone who wants to be a man endeavor to be pregnant? Because their trans-female (man pretending to be woman) spouse cannot get pregnant? Or are gay men dating the trans-male (woman pretending to be a man) people and that is why they want to be pregnant? Sounds like they are just throwing noodles at the wall to see what will stick at this point.
There is nothing "male" about being pregnant. It only can happen in a woman with a uterus. So I think they can't really say that they "identify as male" when they want to do the absolute most female thing possible to do, become pregnant and give birth. If they really wanted to be men they would have their uterus removed. If they really thought they were a man, they wouldn't want to be pregnant because that squires the whole deal doesn't it?
Ms Rodriguez said those who don't accept gender identity are bigots and transphobes and she wouldn't engage anymore show of bigotry asking questions whether a man can get pregnant or not.
originally posted by: Antimony
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: Antimony
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Now think about that. Why on earth would someone who wants to be a man endeavor to be pregnant? Because their trans-female (man pretending to be woman) spouse cannot get pregnant? Or are gay men dating the trans-male (woman pretending to be a man) people and that is why they want to be pregnant? Sounds like they are just throwing noodles at the wall to see what will stick at this point.
There is nothing "male" about being pregnant. It only can happen in a woman with a uterus. So I think they can't really say that they "identify as male" when they want to do the absolute most female thing possible to do, become pregnant and give birth. If they really wanted to be men they would have their uterus removed. If they really thought they were a man, they wouldn't want to be pregnant because that squires the whole deal doesn't it?
Ms Rodriguez said those who don't accept gender identity are bigots and transphobes and she wouldn't engage anymore show of bigotry asking questions whether a man can get pregnant or not.
It isn't bigotry to ask why, if they want to be men so bad do they also want to do the number one most female thing possible. Why don't they have their uterus removed if they want to be a man. Men don't have uteruses. The trans-females (men who want to be women) seem to have a lot more dedication to their cause than the trans-men (women who want to be men) since it seems a lot more of them go through huge surgeries to attain their goal and become passable. Trans-men kind of seem like just a chick with a beard and a deep voice, especially if they keep the uterus and become pregnant.
Yes, it’s possible for men to become pregnant and give birth to children of their own. In fact, it’s probably a lot more common than you might think. In order to explain, we’ll need to break down some common misconceptions about how we understand the term “man.” Not all people who were assigned male at birth (AMAB) identify as men. Those who do are “cisgender” men. Conversely, some people who were assigned female at birth (AFAB) identify as men. These folks may be “transgender” men or transmasculine people.