China Protests Sanctioning Of Its Companies For Russia Trade

America trying to isolate Russia and China by placing sanctions on one of Chinese Companies For Russia Trade.


Ah yes the American war lords, Body predators are upset that China and India are trading with Russia and now place a scanation of a chionese company for just simply trading with Russia


You know America? this is not going stop China, India from trading with Russia

Considering the fact that because of this trade with Russia India has the strongest growing Economy in Asia, far more growing than the boot licking Europe vassal state of America



Which tried lecture China by sending the clown Annalena Baerbock.

Its not India's, China's economy banks that are short falling or its economy sinking.

China Protests Sanctioning Of Its Companies For Russia Trade

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Its Europe that should be concerned with another bank falling.
Instated the US uses Western Euporean countries to give written speeches to other countries.


If Europe hasn't followed Washington on the course over Ukraine, Europe would have being economically positioned better than they are now unfortunately.

a reply to: vNex92

Ah yes the American war lords, Body predators are upset that China and India are trading with Russia and now place a scanation of a chionese company for just simply trading with Russia

As you want to see a Russian victory in Ukraine I can see why this upsets you but those who want to see an end to Russia's aggression against its neighbor can see why sanctioning countries who are indirectly supporting the aggressor deserve to be sanctioned for their support of the country who started the conflict.

No one wants another forever war.

a reply to: gortex

No one wants another forever war.

Then why are we pursuing one?

TheRedneck

a reply to: gortex

As you want to see a Russian victory in Ukraine

An American/NATO victory in Ukraine would mean the end of Russia as a civilization and Nation.

But also the end of Eastern Orthodox Religion.

Ukraine wasn't the founder of Eastern Orthodox Religion.
Byzantine empire was responsible for pushing the eastern orthodox faith in Eastern Europe and to the Rus People.

a reply to: gortex

Russia's aggression against its neighbor

Maybe just maybe if that Neighbor hasnt being pushed by America in 2013 with a coup and sending victoria nuland bread to the protests in Ukraine.

None of this conflict in Ukraine would have even happened.

Unfortunately some of the Western countries want to see Russia destroyed and broken up.
By simply being defeated in Ukraine.



Victoria Nuland gives food for demonstration people in Ukraine
Its not amusing to see victoria nuland pushing harder for this conflict in Ukraine more harder than her.

a reply to: gortex

why sanctioning countries who are indirectly supporting the aggressor deserve to be sanctioned for their support of the country who started the conflict.

The one who started the conflict for the past 8 years it wasn't Russia it was America with the regime change/coup and with senators coming to Ukraine.

Telling Ukrainian soldiers "Their fight agaisnt Russia is our fight"

You had American state officials publicly stating this.

This conflict in Ukraine is now a war with Russia and America/NATO not ofifcal World War yet.

Also keep in mind that the people who run the US wouldn't mind a little war with China.
A small amount of war would be all it would take to cancel CCP ownership of all of their US based assets- which are huge. I'm not sure if those would go to the US government or the US banks, "but at this point, what difference does it make?"

Then there's the matter of all the debt we owe to china that would evaporate in an instant.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: gortex

As you want to see a Russian victory in Ukraine

An American/NATO victory in Ukraine would mean the end of Russia as a civilization and Nation.

But also the end of Eastern Orthodox Religion.

Ukraine wasn't the founder of Eastern Orthodox Religion.
Byzantine empire was responsible for pushing the eastern orthodox faith in Eastern Europe and to the Rus People.

What! ?

What kind of logic is this?

How does Russia as a civilization cease to be if they rolled back to Russia and ended the war today?

Same with the church....

Are you telling me that if Russia does not expand through military conquests that the whole country will die? That is asinine. Sounds very Hitler'ish

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: gortex

No one wants another forever war.

Then why are we pursuing one?

TheRedneck

We’re not. We’re trying to bleed out Russia’s war fighting capability (military, economic, political) without engaging in a direct shooting match between NATO forces and Russian forces. Collectively, the nations aligned against Russia have 10 times the resources that Russia has. In order for this to be a forever war, Russia would have to be able to reconstitute their war fighting capacity faster than they are burning through it, and that’s not happening. Quite the opposite. Russia is now pulling WWII era tanks out of reserves to throw into battle, while Ukraine is getting Leo 2s and Challenger 2s. The US still has thousands of obsolete armored vehicles sitting in storage out in the desert that are still more capable than what Russia is fielding now.

a reply to: infolurker

How does Russia as a civilization cease to be if they rolled back to Russia and ended the war today?

Same with the church....

It doesn't but the Russian propaganda has some of their people believing this. Russia may look different after this is all done but Russia will survive and the Russian people will still be Russian people. Their church will survive as well. Doesn't mean that there won't be societal upheaval after this is over. In fact, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't.

But that line of thinking doesn't play as well as "We are DOOMED!!!! We must fight on to save our society/culture/religion!!!"

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: gortex

No one wants another forever war.

Then why are we pursuing one?

TheRedneck

We’re not. We’re trying to bleed out Russia’s war fighting capability (military, economic, political) without engaging in a direct shooting match between NATO forces and Russian forces. Collectively, the nations aligned against Russia have 10 times the resources that Russia has. In order for this to be a forever war, Russia would have to be able to reconstitute their war fighting capacity faster than they are burning through it, and that’s not happening. Quite the opposite. Russia is now pulling WWII era tanks out of reserves to throw into battle, while Ukraine is getting Leo 2s and Challenger 2s. The US still has thousands of obsolete armored vehicles sitting in storage out in the desert that are still more capable than what Russia is fielding now.

Please list the nations aligned against Russia.

Are you talking about NATO?

Just for clarification...

originally posted by: GAOTU789
a reply to: infolurker

How does Russia as a civilization cease to be if they rolled back to Russia and ended the war today?

Same with the church....

It doesn't but the Russian propaganda has some of their people believing this. Russia may look different after this is all done but Russia will survive and the Russian people will still be Russian people. Their church will survive as well. Doesn't mean that there won't be societal upheaval after this is over. In fact, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't.

But that line of thinking doesn't play as well as "We are DOOMED!!!! We must fight on to save our society/culture/religion!!!"

Russian propaganda is a joke compared to the West's propaganda.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Myke, It's all propaganda

originally posted by: GAOTU789
a reply to: MykeNukem

Myke, It's all propaganda

That's my point.

Thanks for that link, I missed that thread.

a reply to: 1947boomer

We’re trying to bleed out Russia’s war fighting capability (military, economic, political) without engaging in a direct shooting match between NATO forces and Russian forces.

OK, so we're pursuing a never-ending war while calling it something other than a never ending war.

Good explanation.

TheRedneck

The sanctions come amid heightened concern that China would carry out military provocations around Taiwan similar to war games it conducted in response to a high-level visit by then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to the island in August.

China on Friday issued sanctions against the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and a Washington-based think tank in retaliation for providing a public platform to Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen during her transit through the U.S. this month.

The sanctions impose visa bans on the blacklisted organizations and individuals, freeze any assets they may have in China and prohibit Chinese citizens from any interactions.

thehill.com...


Both the U.S. and China are exploring rough seas and looking to stay under the threshold of sanctions crippling their deep trade ties.

At the end of the day, if Chinese companies choose to deal with Russia, then that's their choice. However, those companies will then have trouble dealing with the US and other countries due to rules around secondary sanctions.

Why is this a problem?

originally posted by: vNex92
America trying to isolate Russia and China by placing sanctions on one of Chinese Companies For Russia Trade.

They've been doing this under various guises for quite a while now (Huawei for instance). It won't matter in the end, as the Chinese have been outsmarting and outcompeting the US for decades. When your mentality never rises above "sanction it, or blow it up" it isn't terribly difficult to be outsmarted.

There is a massive movement towards China not just from the global "south" who have had enough of the US mafia styled economic system, but a French company just traded a large shipment of LNG to China settled in renminbi. The US is uniting the world against it (apart from its small collection of poodles).

You know America? this is not going stop China, India from trading with Russia

It isn't stopping anyone trading with Russia. It just means they now do it through middle men at increased prices. Like Liberace, China and India are crying all the way to the bank.

Considering the fact that because of this trade with Russia India has the strongest growing Economy in Asia, far more growing than the boot licking Europe vassal state of America

Germany also relied for its prosperity on Russian trade (natural resources). It was working too well, that's why the US stopped it, and brought Germany back under economic control. Hence Nordstream.

Which tried lecture China by sending the clown Annalena Baerbock.

Baerbock is not only an artless dullard, but is simply an empty shell. She represents the interests of the US as her country has had no sovereignty and in fact has been under military occupation since the end of WW2. With the Soviet collapse the US has been able to expand east almost unopposed.

Its not India's, China's economy banks that are short falling or its economy sinking.

Shhh, don't mention that. Or the economic/trade bloc being formed that (when it really gets going) will represent most of the world's population and control most of the worlds resources and manufacturing capacity.

Or the bank associated with it that is offering loans to developing countries in their own currency (to bypass US extortion via IMF and World Bank). 30% of all loans have to be in local currencies up to 2026. The eventual aim is to bypass the US financial system for trade amongst themselves, the dollar will probably only be used for US trade in the future (and possibly a few of its poodles).

The US has had no genuine threat to its dominance since WW2 but now it certainly has. China (and others) are beginning to offer the world a way out of the organised crime syndicate that is US "diplomacy" and economics. The world is losing its fear, not a good situation to be in for a pathological bully. They (US) will be experiencing no small amount of "comeuppence" over the coming decades.

The US is helping hugely in its own demise as it gets ever more desperate. Hopefully they wont bet everything on one last war (that they would lose anyway).