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Breaking update: an arrest has been made in the recent major U.S. intelligence leak

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posted on Apr, 13 2023 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: Violater1


The contest will now start of what his/hers acceptable pronouns are.


Nah doubtful. MTG has already tweeted multiple times, implying the guy did no wrong, only that he is hated because he is white, Christian and male. Whining that he's being treated like a traitor and the enemy

Soon others will be parroting her implication that espionage is not really a bad thing. Should she really be on the Homeland Security Committee? I think it's bad whatever reason he did it, no matter what his pronouns are.
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posted on Apr, 13 2023 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: frogs453

Those pronouns would be:


"Loser/Idiot"



posted on Apr, 13 2023 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

Agree!



posted on Apr, 13 2023 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

frogs453

A massive leak of your government and media lying to you on a scale so massive that we are closer to WWIII than ever before.


Your response: " hurrdurrrrrr wHaT a lOsEr."

Well done



posted on Apr, 13 2023 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: putnam6

I choose to believe everything isn't a show. Yes, as of now, I can buy he had access to sensitive intel and chose to throw away his military career to play Internet legend. He was an E3. E3's can view "Top Secret" documents if needed for their job. If your MOS is intelligence anything you're coming out of tech school with at least a secret clearance.

For now, I choose to believe the story and give benefit of the doubt that his did have access to such information.

Sometimes even working with classified things requires indirect clearance to know about it.

Back to my Dad. Later in life, he worked for Raytheon as a material handler. Had one of the highest clearances ar that site because he needed to see every program when they needed something moved. He got to see all their project displays. He has seen Raytheon weapons systems by picking up things for them that he says will not be declassified until long after he's dead. They trusted him to handle the material and not talk about those displays. No connection to the program, yet got to know about it.
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posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 01:48 AM
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Forget about the kid, lets focus on who the man on the grassy knoll is that put the bag there !



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 03:04 AM
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originally posted by: frogs453
I think it's bad whatever reason he did it


By coincidence i watched the 80s movie Falcon and The Snowman a couple nights back


the true story of two young American men, Christopher Boyce (Timothy Hutton) and Andrew Daulton Lee (Sean Penn), who sold US security secrets to the Soviet Union.

Wiki


gets a job at a civilian defense contractor working in the so-called "Black Vault," a secure communication facility through which flows information on some of the most classified U.S. operations in the world.


Chris was young and exposed to big secrets, such as the CIA toppling the Australian PM because he threatened US profits. Chris saw a US that was predatory - traits he understood via his hobby of falconry. It was a harsh wake up call for the lad who'd almost entered seminary and who's father was in the FBI. It destroyed the narrative he'd grown up with that he was in the land of the good guys on the world stage.

According to the movie he decided that he had a moral obligation to act and naively assumed/hoped that giving these secrets to the USSR would perhaps bring US misdeeds to light and course correct the dark path his country was on. I say 'naively' because of course he was destined to discover that the USSR was no different to the US.

When Chris and his accomplice are finally discovered and caught he's sentenced to 40 years, his partner Andrew to life.

It's a tragedy, because Chris was a good guy doing what he thought was the right thing and sacrificed his freedom in doing so. Whether he was right or wrong is a very complex discussion; maybe the bottom line - the harsh reality is that he was merely giving one predator an advantage over another, so it's better to back the predator you live with. But if humanity is to ever be free of predators it will probably need people like Chris, like Julian Assange to bring the dirty deeds into the light. Problem is it needs to done across the board simultaneously or else you're just swapping predators.

In this context i really feel for this kid - because he is a mere kid - Jack. We don't know the details, or his true motivations. Tptb will want to paint him as a deviant - someone vainly seeking to impress, someone to look down upon. This moves the scrutiny away from the secrets exposed and onto Jack instead. But like Chris he may well have believed that he was doing a good thing, however naive that sentiment is.

Either way i feel very sad for this kid and his family that he's probably now lost his freedom and his future

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posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 03:20 AM
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a reply to: McGinty

father was in the FBI. It contradicted the narrative he'd grown up with that he was in the land of the good guys on the world stage.

According to the movie he decided that he had a moral obligation to act and naively assumed/hoped that giving these secrets to the USSR would perhaps bring US' misdeeds to light and course correct the dark path his country was on.

I say 'naively' because of course he was destined to discover that the USSR was no different to the US.




Jack Teixeira’s stepfather Tom Dufault and stepbrother Alex Dufault also worked at Joint Base Cape Cod, according to Teixeira’s step-uncle James Dufault.


Teixeira’s stepfather, Thomas Dufault, retired after a 34-year military career as a master sergeant from the same unit, the 102nd Intelligence Wing, in a 2019 ceremony at Joint Base Cape Cod, according to public records and photos posted online by the Defense Department.



much of the information in these documents had previously been publicly available through media reports



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posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 03:43 AM
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posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 03:53 AM
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a reply to: Infoshill

Maybe the similarities are a clue to the cause?

Most 1st generation intelligence operatives got there via years commitment, their ideals maturing into realism.

2nd generation more likely followed in their parent's footsteps and achieved those positions younger thanks to nepotism and without the matured experience to understand the complexity and nuance of the grey area of morality they work in. So they see these secrets with fresh, idealistic, inexperienced eyes and act on motivations their older forebears knew better than to entertain.

This makes neither old nor young wrong or right imo. The young are right in their ideals, but the old know that they can't be achieved the easy way - perhaps not at all. You hand your enemy your weapon as a show of peace than they'll more than likely kill you with it.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 04:17 AM
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Yeah sure, an enlisted e-3 weekend warrior has access to those classified information at will.

An active duty junior officer would be more believable.

This is a joke.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: 38181
Yeah sure, an enlisted e-3 weekend warrior has access to those classified information at will.

An active duty junior officer would be more believable.

This is a joke.

Lol, exactly.
E3 in the guard … not enough time in service to have any authority, any subject matter expertise, is a go-fer at best, getting coffee for the folks who have any rank or authority. He doesn’t handle or even see data on the highest level of details about the Ukraine fiasco.
Better check out any new friends he’s made in the recent past, who will accidentally be found to be FBI / CIA. He’s a patsy, a fall guy, to get this carefully crafted stuff out, whether fake or real. Somebody much much higher in the food chain benefits from this whole thing.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: frogs453

originally posted by: Violater1


The contest will now start of what his/hers acceptable pronouns are.


Nah doubtful. MTG has already tweeted multiple times, implying the guy did no wrong, only that he is hated because he is white, Christian and male. Whining that he's being treated like a traitor and the enemy

Soon others will be parroting her implication that espionage is not really a bad thing. Should she really be on the Homeland Security Committee? I think it's bad whatever reason he did it, no matter what his pronouns are.

He does have that Reality Winner / Chelsea Manning vibe. At least Snowden and Assange have the look of real guys, or spies.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 08:55 AM
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He definitely went about it all wrong. He should have used Joe's method. Just put them in his garage and then get a secret message out to the Chinese military to just stop by sometime unannounced. They could just use direct deposit.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: chiefsmom
Was it Discord they were originally leaked to?
Because I'm curious, because I know I read it on some other thread here, that they were originally leaked over 6 months ago? But apparently they weren't getting a lot of attention.
Then they were moved to some gaming sites?

The whole thing seems fishy.


Kinda like that spy barroon. Coincidentally it wasn't talked about until someone noticed it and it went viral.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 12:54 PM
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Update 4.14.2023

U.S. President Joe Biden sets the record straight. The leak of national secrets was no big deal, because he kept Top Secret documents in desk drawers, and in his garage, for years. They've even generated Biden Family income!

Source: abcnews.go.com...




posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: putnam6

I choose to believe everything isn't a show. Yes, as of now, I can buy he had access to sensitive intel and chose to throw away his military career to play Internet legend. He was an E3. E3's can view "Top Secret" documents if needed for their job. If your MOS is intelligence anything you're coming out of tech school with at least a secret clearance.

For now, I choose to believe the story and give benefit of the doubt that his did have access to such information.

Sometimes even working with classified things requires indirect clearance to know about it.

Back to my Dad. Later in life, he worked for Raytheon as a material handler. Had one of the highest clearances ar that site because he needed to see every program when they needed something moved. He got to see all their project displays. He has seen Raytheon weapons systems by picking up things for them that he says will not be declassified until long after he's dead. They trusted him to handle the material and not talk about those displays. No connection to the program, yet got to know about it.


Thanks for answering, I don't have any personal experience so comments from those that do are appreciated. Like I always try and mention Id rather be wrong on ATS and find out the truth, than be considered correct on ATS but it is not the actual truth.

When your default mode is you don't trust anybody without research, you always have to ask questions.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: McGinty

Before (if it's not already too late) this "lionization of the leaker" goes too much further, let's just remember that this was not some innocent, naive, young, intelligence "nepo-baby", horribly "disillusioned" by the "ugly truths" hidden by the government he was raised "to love and serve", acting as a "patriot" and willing martyr.


No.


This is a 21 year old "adult" (supposedly), sworn to preserve and defend his country, who, based on his oath, was charged with custody of information deemed vital to his nation, and whose duty it was to maintain the security of such information.


Instead, according to at least one of his internet companions, he used his trusted access to his nation's confidential assets, not to try to "save" his country's well-being, or even its idealistic identity, but to gain and maintain his Own Personal Status and credibility as the "group leader" of an internet "chat group"!


Not moral rectitude.

Not ideological agenda.

Not even money.


He just wanted to be "Big Man On Chat".


Not a Hero, but a Zero.
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posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: McGinty

Instead, according to at least one of his internet companions, he used his trusted access to his nation's confidential assets,


It’s puzzling what job would give him reason and method to access the data.

Handling classified data isn’t only about having the clearance, but having need.

And in this day and age of AI, our government IT systems can’t detect unneeded downloading of secret information to a mobile device, or unauthorized email? And the system was setup to allow such transfers?

This thing sticks.



posted on Apr, 14 2023 @ 02:06 PM
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Many years ago, when I was 20, I got a job with an aerospace company that was contracted to the Navy.
I was not IN the navy, but I did have a Top Secret clearance and eventually a Top Secret crypto, as they called it.

It allowed access to a lot of data. I was never tempted to pass it along to anyone. But there was a lot for me to see.

Later, I worked for another company that gave me access and physical entry to many Govt agencies. Including CIA McLean, Va. and some photo interpretation centers in DC.

Same there. I was in and out of those buildings all the time.

Never tempted to share any of that either. Saw some wild stuff in some data.

But I did have access. I was 20.

One thing I noticed in those days is that whatever I brought in was inspected by the front guards at the gate. Then again at the entry of the buildings. But, I was never inspected on the way out.



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