Husband of BBC presenter killed by the Covid vaccine is suing Astrazeneca

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

You do realise that the average age of a covid death was 82.

That's higher than general life expectancy.

Average is largely irrelevant when looking at who should get vaccinated or not.

The average age of a covid death was 82......it's relevant.

Do you know who was recommended to get the vaccines?

Not for getting the vaccine it isnt.

As a hypothetical example if a virus killed 90% of people over 50 and 1% of people under 50 then you are going to have a high average age of death.

However if the vaccine resulted in death 0.01% of the time then it would still be in people under 50 interest to get it.

As I said not familar enough with Japans vaccination policy so dont know what age they recomend from.

a reply to: ScepticScot

What if the vaccine did what it did to the 14 year old Japanese girl?
Would people still be interested in getting it?

Will you take whatever you are offered?

Its funny watching the same people play this game--pretending that 10,000 threads of evidence showing these quackzines arent dangerous and this hasnt all been a scam. But then they go quiet and ignore all those threads but randomly jump in and cherry pick ones they can make random comments in.


Durrrr source.... durrr that hasn't been proven.

You know what you're doing.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

What if the vaccine did what it did to the 14 year old Japanese girl?
Would people still be interested in getting it?

Will you take whatever you are offered?

There is a risk everytime you take any medicine.

It's the balance between the risk and benefit.

a reply to: ScepticScot

How can anyone be sure of the benefit or risk of taking a novel (new mechanism) vaccine??

Did you have a 1 in 800 chance of dying from covid?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

How can anyone be sure of the benefit or risk of taking a novel (new mechanism) vaccine??

Did you have a 1 in 800 chance of dying from covid?

That's why they do the studies.

It's also why they change the advice if new information comes up when in the real world (like with astrazeneca in under 40s).

a reply to: ScepticScot

You mean like the pre rollout trials that showed there was a 1 in 800 chance of a serious adverse event?

That information wasn't on the information sheet.....if that was, would you still have taken it?

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Asmodeus3

At least in your country they are no longer offering any vaccine to those who are under 75.

Wrong again.

People aged 75 years and older, residents in care homes for older people, and those aged 5 years and over with a weakened immune system will be offered a booster of coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine this spring.

www.gov.uk...

It's precisely what I said unless you can't read it dint want to read what I have written. The UK is no longer offering any of the Covid vaccines to those under the age of 75. Unless they are immunosuppressed or having some medical conditions. You forgot about this little part...

No you are the one who is wrong and can't read and doesn't want to read.

a reply to: alldaylong

Let's see the facts again as the facts speak for themselves:

Deaths due to the vaccine
Debilitating conditions due to the vaccine
Severe adverse reactions due to the vaccine
Withdrawal of the vaccine from most countries


Hardly a success story and hardly the miracle of science as it has been described by the press and the journalists who themselves played a crucial role in propagating misinformation and disinformation all along.


The AZ vaccine has been withdrawn i most countries that have used it. Including the UK that has produced it.

I am still waiting for this link of yours that doesn't seem to work where allegedly the AZ vaccine is still used in the UK.

Pretty much your arguments have been refuted.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

What if the vaccine did what it did to the 14 year old Japanese girl?
Would people still be interested in getting it?

Will you take whatever you are offered?

There is a risk everytime you take any medicine.

It's the balance between the risk and benefit.

Yes we know the story. Don't you have better lines to go about your vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

You do realise that the average age of a covid death was 82.

That's higher than general life expectancy.

Average is largely irrelevant when looking at who should get vaccinated or not.

The average age of a covid death was 82......it's relevant.

Do you know who was recommended to get the vaccines?

Not for getting the vaccine it isnt.

As a hypothetical example if a virus killed 90% of people over 50 and 1% of people under 50 then you are going to have a high average age of death.

However if the vaccine resulted in death 0.01% of the time then it would still be in people under 50 interest to get it.

As I said not familar enough with Japans vaccination policy so dont know what age they recomend from.

Any evidence for this other than your unsubstantiated opinions. Leave the maths out of it as you have confused your arguments for once more.

a reply to: alldaylong

www.bbc.com...


AstraZeneca vaccine: Denmark stops rollout completely

14 April 2021

First country that has done it long time ago.

The miracle of science was stopped in Denmark. Then the miracle of science was stopped in most other countries. Isn't this a miracle itself?!

You are engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality and you are desperately defending the Pharmaceuticals. Especially Astrazeneca....

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

You do realise that the average age of a covid death was 82.

That's higher than general life expectancy.

Average is largely irrelevant when looking at who should get vaccinated or not.

The average age of a covid death was 82......it's relevant.

Do you know who was recommended to get the vaccines?

Not for getting the vaccine it isnt.

As a hypothetical example if a virus killed 90% of people over 50 and 1% of people under 50 then you are going to have a high average age of death.

However if the vaccine resulted in death 0.01% of the time then it would still be in people under 50 interest to get it.

As I said not familar enough with Japans vaccination policy so dont know what age they recomend from.

Any evidence for this other than your unsubstantiated opinions. Leave the maths out of it as you have confused your arguments for once more.

Do you understand what hypothetical means?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Did you see the T G A document dated January 2021?

Even before you were vaccinated there was a lot that was known that was being withheld........

And even now there are big chunks blacked out in that document.......that shows that you are still missing infomation that you require to give informed consent.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

The UK is no longer offering any of the Covid vaccines to those under the age of 75. Unless they are immunosuppressed or having some medical conditions.

Do you not understand English? Some people are being offered the vaccine this spring who are under the age of 75. According to you this is not happening.

Do us a favour, and stop talking bollocks.

a reply to: alldaylong

When you signed your consent form were you informed that the pre rollout trials showed 1 in 800 chance of a serious adverse event?

Were you told that the solution does not stay in the muscle in the arm?
That it in fact goes all around the body.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: alldaylong

When you signed your consent form were you informed that the pre rollout trials showed 1 in 800 chance of a serious adverse event?

Why should that matter ? You are advised that there can be side effects ( as with any vaccine ) You either accept the risk or you don't

When you purchase a car, are you advised that there is a certain risk factor that you could be involved in a fatal accident ?

Why are you trying to over complicate things ?

a reply to: alldaylong

It matters because it was a pre rollout trial so the infomation was available but withheld.

Was it an uninformed consent form that you signed?
I think so.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Was it an uninformed consent form that you signed?

Have a look for yourself.

www.gov.uk...

a reply to: alldaylong

I know it did not inform you that the pre rollout trials showed a 1 in 800 chance of getting a serious adverse event.

I don't need to download whatever is on the pdf you linked to know that.