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LMPD: 5 dead including shooter, 6 persons taken to hospital including an officer

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posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 12:02 AM
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originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: EmeraldCoastFreedm

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

Edited due to actual reply. They were made to shoot bullets like all guns. You squeeze the trigger and bang. If I had only 10rnd mags and I had 20 of them...what would the difference be? They can be reloaded in under 2 seconds by anyone who bothers to practice.
You gonna lug around 20 magazines with 10rds of ammo in each ?
I have a conceal cary permit in my State & I don’t cary an extra magazine on me ever , because if weight.
If 10 shot single stack can’t get me out of trouble , then nothing would.
Im a realist & don’t live in a fantasy world of constant threats that need attention.
A real warrior is calm & makes zero rash decisions out of feelings.


10 round mags each rolls my eye's you are clueless.
enjoy your 6r round pump shot gun..
I also own a Dutch Shepard KNPV & a Glock 43x is mire than enough for defence.


I dont care what you own. you are retarded to us military war doctrine. And why 5.56 was chosen over 7.62.



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 12:59 AM
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www.businessinsider.com... seems its a millennial problem not a gun problem

www.psychologytoday.com... this one labels un diagnosed or misdiagnosed mental illnesses but also brings up the fact that as time as gone one of the main differences is the internet ,constant media cycles about the event (i mean were here right now arent we?) and the younger generations "increasing hopelessness" add up


Their findings showed a high prevalence of undiagnosed psychiatric illness in mass shooters: The majority of surviving shooters (87.5%) had misdiagnosed and incorrectly treated, or undiagnosed and untreated, psychiatric illness. Researchers found psychiatric illnesses including schizophrenia, mood disorders, delusional disorder, severe personality disorders, substance-related disorders and PTSD. There was insufficient information in three cases. A clinical misdiagnosis and mistreatment of pre-pubertal, early-onset schizophrenia was associated with the worsening of many of these assailants’ psychotic symptoms. Most perpetrators studied experienced profound estrangement not only from families, friends and classmates but most importantly from themselves. Being marginalized and interpersonally shunned rendered them more vulnerable to their un/mistreated psychiatric illness and to radicalization online, which fostered their violence.


throw in what happens if you get prescribed the wrong drug for the wrong condition and things can go wonky fast

www.researchgate.net... _have_changed_over_time list of various papers on the matter


jfcsatl.org...

Most of the perpetrators of these tragic events of mass shootings are young millennials, primarily men. There are many challenges that this age group are dealing with - each possibly contributing to the destructive, emotional outbursts that occur. And one of the biggest challenges is the feelings of loneliness and depression. Three in 10 Millennials Say They Always or Often Feel Lonely As reported by YouGov, new data finds that Millennials report feeling lonely much more often than their Gen X and Baby Boomer counterparts. While 30 percent of Millennials say they always or often feel lonely, just one in five (20%) members of Generation X says the same. Even fewer Baby Boomers (15%) report feeling lonely with the same frequency. Shyness and lack of hobbies are cited as some of the reasons why millennials feel lonely and disconnected. Three in 10 (31%) of millennials say that making friends is difficult.


so this one goes with standard gun control talk but then delves into the above snippet so id say figuring out WHY an entire generation is much more depressed then the last two could help calm things down but i have a feeling that will ruffle feathers of those who just want to focus on gun control.social media addiction for one is cited , most youth see others living better or different lives then themselves and it seems to be screwing with there over all mental health

www.latimes.com... while rarer political or ideological leanings can effect mass shootings and it seems to be intensifying since about the time of brevik to what we have now ,see earlier posts of the shooters ig story "maybe they will listen to this" statements. we dont have Adury's manifesto yet but we did get breviks and he plotted for years to do what he did in norway and got guns in one of the hardest nations to get such weapons as well as enough explosives to set off a distraction so he could hunt politicians children unhindered

enewspaper.latimes.com... this link covers the type and statistics of the various types of shooters from k-12,spree killers,college shooters,place of worship shooters and todays workplace violence ones of which the suspect was not in the majority statistics wise


Understanding what kind of person commits these crimes in each of the different settings is only a first step. We also need to use the profiles to better prevent and respond to mass shootings. For example, becauseschool shooters are nearly always students of the school, alterations to building design and conducting active shooter drills are likely to be ineffective, since the shooter is an insider, well-rehearsed in the security procedures. The same goes for workplace shooters, who typically are employees or former employees. In every category, more than 80% of perpetrators are in crisis prior to the shooting. Investments in school and employment-based mental health services and training in crisis intervention and grievance mitigation could help prevent assaults.
this snippet covers an important aspect,even if you have shooter drills and plans most that shoot up schools are former students who know the layout ,the procedures and the protocols schools will do in such events making them harder to stop and probably increasing body count.

nij.ojp.gov...

Other Key Findings and Applicability Trauma, Suicidality, and Crisis Suicidality was found to be a strong predictor of perpetration of mass shootings. Of all mass shooters in the The Violence Project database, 30% were suicidal prior to the shooting. An additional 39% were suicidal during the shooting. Those numbers were significantly higher for younger shooters, with K-12 students who engaged in mass shootings found to be suicidal in 92% of instances and college/university students who engaged in mass shooting suicidal 100% of the time. In terms of past trauma, 31% of persons who perpetrated mass shootings were found to have experiences of severe childhood trauma, and over 80% were in crisis. Trauma was a common element of the backgrounds of those committing mass shooting, both in the database and the qualitative studies. Early intervention through school-based services may be a key component of early prevention.
this one covers the whole shebang but does say some what ironically that "workplace" shootings were in decline compared to the old days



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 01:29 AM
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a reply to: putnam6

We always hear about the heroic first repsonders who risked their lives to save others when they show up immediately. Its just as predictable as the narrative about he umpteenth mass shooting, the gun violence, the racial profiling ( if white and male) , the assault style rifle( if there was one). Sometimes the cops don't show up in time, sometimes they do. Sometimes they do save lives, sometimes the targets the crazy went after are shot and they then take their own lives. That gets filtered out and is then released later.
What you don't hear is how if one of the victims or if a bystander is armed how even more lives would have been saved.
You hear the style of firearm that the shooter used, but not what meds the shooter was one. I can remember there used to be armed bank guards. Now they have a pretty neat trick where they can lock the entry vestibule trapping robbers. And automatic alarms. But this guy was an employee that was going to get fired. Watch who you hire, watch who you fire, watch who you have do the firing.
FYI, I almost walked in on a bank robbery. The manager met me at the door saying they were closed and you could tell by the look on her face something was happening. I was taking my mother into to do transfer money into an account and quickly got her into the car and as we were leaving the police arrived. Had we left our house just a few minutes earlier we would have seen the getaway vehicle because it was parked right across the street.



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 04:25 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: SecrettoSociety
Lol
Sure you don’t
You are just ready to surrender your civil rights for that “fear of irrational threats “
Lol
Mkay
If you say so hhh

Whats your plan for the incoming Gen Z mess
You live in fear as well .
Im talking about problems in society, not what Im scared of . You are extremely transparent to me .
I enjoy our banter , because I learn more & more .



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 04:25 AM
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originally posted by: EmeraldCoastFreedm

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: EmeraldCoastFreedm

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

Edited due to actual reply. They were made to shoot bullets like all guns. You squeeze the trigger and bang. If I had only 10rnd mags and I had 20 of them...what would the difference be? They can be reloaded in under 2 seconds by anyone who bothers to practice.
You gonna lug around 20 magazines with 10rds of ammo in each ?
I have a conceal cary permit in my State & I don’t cary an extra magazine on me ever , because if weight.
If 10 shot single stack can’t get me out of trouble , then nothing would.
Im a realist & don’t live in a fantasy world of constant threats that need attention.
A real warrior is calm & makes zero rash decisions out of feelings.


10 round mags each rolls my eye's you are clueless.
enjoy your 6r round pump shot gun..
I also own a Dutch Shepard KNPV & a Glock 43x is mire than enough for defence.


I dont care what you own. you are retarded to us military war doctrine. And why 5.56 was chosen over 7.62.

For weight & wounds



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 04:32 AM
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originally posted by: EmeraldCoastFreedm

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: EmeraldCoastFreedm

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

Edited due to actual reply. They were made to shoot bullets like all guns. You squeeze the trigger and bang. If I had only 10rnd mags and I had 20 of them...what would the difference be? They can be reloaded in under 2 seconds by anyone who bothers to practice.
You gonna lug around 20 magazines with 10rds of ammo in each ?
I have a conceal cary permit in my State & I don’t cary an extra magazine on me ever , because if weight.
If 10 shot single stack can’t get me out of trouble , then nothing would.
Im a realist & don’t live in a fantasy world of constant threats that need attention.
A real warrior is calm & makes zero rash decisions out of feelings.


10 round mags each rolls my eye's you are clueless.
enjoy your 6r round pump shot gun..
I also own a Dutch Shepard KNPV & a Glock 43x is mire than enough for defence.


I dont care what you own. you are retarded to us military war doctrine. And why 5.56 was chosen over 7.62.

[/quote] You are unhinged & fragile. Name calling ?
What kind if warrior looses his cool over words on a public forum ?
Ill tell you who does : Disenfranchised white guys who can’t accept natural changes in society.
It’s ok to be angry , but mailable thoughts are what is required to succeed in life .
Im sure you have had success to one degree or another & hope you find an outlet for your anger .
Jesus loves you



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: SecrettoSociety
What mess?
More of your future predictions and mind reading?
You are a poor joke.



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: Dutchowl
a reply to: putnam6

We always hear about the heroic first repsonders who risked their lives to save others when they show up immediately. Its just as predictable as the narrative about he umpteenth mass shooting, the gun violence, the racial profiling ( if white and male) , the assault style rifle( if there was one). Sometimes the cops don't show up in time, sometimes they do. Sometimes they do save lives, sometimes the targets the crazy went after are shot and they then take their own lives. That gets filtered out and is then released later.
What you don't hear is how if one of the victims or if a bystander is armed how even more lives would have been saved.
You hear the style of firearm that the shooter used, but not what meds the shooter was one. I can remember there used to be armed bank guards. Now they have a pretty neat trick where they can lock the entry vestibule trapping robbers. And automatic alarms. But this guy was an employee that was going to get fired. Watch who you hire, watch who you fire, watch who you have do the firing.
FYI, I almost walked in on a bank robbery. The manager met me at the door saying they were closed and you could tell by the look on her face something was happening. I was taking my mother into to do transfer money into an account and quickly got her into the car and as we were leaving the police arrived. Had we left our house just a few minutes earlier we would have seen the getaway vehicle because it was parked right across the street.


Damn, great comment in a thread full of questionable ones.

I thought about the officer just 10 days on the force now fighting for his life.

I thought about companies needing to rethink termination procedures. Hell Ive worked places, where one hour you are working and the next they are telling you to clean your desk out. Why the slow-motion termination?

I also thought about the mall shooter in Minnesota, who walked into the food court and started firing, he got 2-3 innocent victims before a young adult on the scene with CC ended his mass shooting right there. IIRC it was a helluva shot too, 75 feet away and from behind concealment.

Yes, we definitely have a mental health crisis, if this is the type of mass shooter our society spits out way too often. I mean damn, he should have had no trouble finding another job in the same sector in Louisville unless he did something really egregious to get fired but one would think that would have resulted in immediate termination.

Coping skills, we are no longer teaching coping skills. Everything has become so adversarial, too many just don't have the skills, to just laugh and shrug shift off, say good riddance, and move on like a rational adults.


edit on 11-4-2023 by putnam6 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

Edited due to actual reply. They were made to shoot bullets like all guns. You squeeze the trigger and bang. If I had only 10rnd mags and I had 20 of them...what would the difference be? They can be reloaded in under 2 seconds by anyone who bothers to practice.
You gonna lug around 20 magazines with 10rds of ammo in each ?
I have a conceal cary permit in my State & I don’t cary an extra magazine on me ever , because if weight.
If 10 shot single stack can’t get me out of trouble , then nothing would.
Im a realist & don’t live in a fantasy world of constant threats that need attention.
A real warrior is calm & makes zero rash decisions out of feelings.


how many people do you see that carry an AR for their daily CCW?

I have a few choices, most are 9mm, 7-13 shot. But I do enjoy shooting with my AR as well, I kill paper. And my .308 AR-10 is my go to deer rifle. I like the adjustability with the trigger that I cannot get with my Remington bolt action. They both weigh the same, both have decent scopes. Both shoot .308. Both will kill a deer or even bigger game, although where I live, deer is it.

what are you really against here? Or are you just parroting the official narrative?



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

Says the poster who would ban firearms because hes scared of the youth?

...k


Lets say, for arguments sake, that I am myopic in my view of the 2nd amendment.

How does that compare to being a hypocritre and a liar to push a socialist agenda, morally?
The inly difference between you & me is fear .
I don’t live in fear of irrational threats .


Yes you do, it's why you want to ban firearms for the vast majority of citizens who will never use them to commit a crime, in hope that the fraction of a percent of criminals can't get access to them, even though there's already millions in circulation.



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

You shouldn't, but I am.

FFS.

.


Lemme know when you wanna answer the question.


Im sure you alteady know it and thats why the habit of tail tucking is demonstrated....again.


"Tail tucking"? I thought I had made it clear last night that it was late and that I was watching football. My apologies. I have a life

"How many handgun deaths happen per day? Surely it should be a known quantity especially because of your concern for AR15s....right?



...right?"

I don't know. Why should I know? Why ask me?

What have handguns got to do with this shooting incident?

Yes, I am concerned about the sheer number of shootings over there which appear to involve assault type firearms.


Am I wrong to be so concerned?

Concerned, not obsessed.

Some info here:

BBC News - How many US mass shootings have there been in 2023?
www.bbc.co.uk...

Apparently he bought the AR 15 a week before.

I think there is a difference between mass shootings involving assault rifles and homicides involving handguns, if that helps with your question?

Either way, the answer is probably "too many".




edit on 11-4-2023 by Oldcarpy2 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I don't get it. The guy has a master's degree and it was most likely earned given he isn't from a well placed family. He could get another job. So did he have anger management issues? Was he or did he feel he was screwed over? Was it the old entitlement syndrome young people have where they are told they'll succeed because they're so darn perfect? This wasn't some headcase or loser or somebody who may have fallen prey to deep state involvement. It reminds me of the Idaho college murderer. Why weren't these guys recruited for working against humanity like the Pfizer guy was who got caught in that video sting that went viral.



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: Dutchowl

Who knows?

I don't get it, either.



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: putnam6
LMPD: 5 dead including shooter, 6 persons taking to hospital including an officer

The scene under control Governor supposedly heading to Louisville

Searching for more info.



www.wlky.com...



LOUISVILLE, Ky. —
The Louisville Metro Police are asking people to stay away from an area of downtown Louisville as they respond to an incident.

They say there is "an active aggressor" in the 300 block of East Main.

Police say there are multiple casualties.

This area is near Louisville Slugger Field and the Old National Bank.




Shouldn't the headline say "Straight white male, aged 25" ? Or is that only used when the killer is trans/gay?



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: DoubleDNH

Leftist who retweeted antifa and had a case of TDS.
And wore a helmet to play high school basketball due to a bunch of concussions in high school sports
edit on 11-4-2023 by EmeraldCoastFreedm because: (no reason given)

edit on 11-4-2023 by EmeraldCoastFreedm because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 05:09 PM
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Body cam footage released.




posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2



Yes, I am concerned about the sheer number of shootings over there which appear to involve assault type firearms.


No, youre not. You dont need to lie.

If you were concerned then you would know the answer to this:



I don't know. Why should I know? Why ask me?

What have handguns got to do with this shooting incident?


Whats even more telling is that this:


I think there is a difference between mass shootings involving assault rifles and homicides involving handguns, if that helps with your question?


Would it surprise you to know that they most deaths from a mass shooting was done with a handgun?



posted on Apr, 11 2023 @ 06:15 PM
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Better footage.




posted on Apr, 12 2023 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

I'm lying about being concerned?!!!

Yes, that would surprise me.


Surely, assault rifles are much more lethal and cause more deaths and casualties in mass shootings?

Perhaps I'm wrong about that but do try to engage in polite debate.



posted on Apr, 12 2023 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: DoubleDNH

No. They use that headline if they think he was conservative. Then they play the white supremacy angle.



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