Ukraine's gay soilders fight Russia and for their rights

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

So how many people do you imagine have perished thus far for Putin's failed wet dream?

Aka ""Special Military Operation"" aka war and invasion of Ukraine.

The answer is far too many, no matter the numbers, which by the way look to be horrendous on both sides.

I disputed a BS claim.

BS claims are BS.

If you like to excuse BS because "feelz" then you do you.

I'll challege BS when I see it...and that claim was BS.

Did I mention BS?

a reply to: MykeNukem

That's nice, but you were simply asked a question that you appear to have failed to answer.

Shall we try again, how many people do you imagine have perished thus far for Putin's failed wet dream?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

That's nice, but you were simply asked a question that you appear to have failed to answer.

Shall we try again, how many people do you imagine have perished thus far for Putin's failed wet dream?

Yes, try again.

Is that what you do? Just "imagine" and then state it as fact?

That explains a lot...

originally posted by: MykeNukem
Oryx data isn't all that great either, lot's of extrapolating involved with their data too (if it isn't photographic or video evidence, as they state on their website).

They are not adding other than:

This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here.

No extrapolating, it's only verified photographic/geolocated kills.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
In Germany we say:
Stell dir vor es ist Krieg und keiner geht hin
Imagine there is a war and no one goes there

Too bad Germany didn't do this when it really mattered.

At least did some Germans (unfortunately only a minority again as it seems or at least like the MSM makes it look) learn from the past. The reason is maybe that Nazi-Germany got it´s a$$ kicked on own soil after it terrorized the whole world, others still have this ahead of them before they start to believe in peace and not only in war, not only in first shooting and then asking, not only in my d!ck (military) is bigger than yours and so you have to do what i want or else... ( i blow up your pipelines and you can´t do anything against it for example).

But you are right, i too wish that the germans back at that time were a bit more like some of the germans today, would have maybe saved a lot of lives. But then again, maybe a war hungry nation needs first it´s a$$ kicked on own soil to learn how this feels and will behave a bit different from that time on.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: MykeNukem
Oryx data isn't all that great either, lot's of extrapolating involved with their data too (if it isn't photographic or video evidence, as they state on their website).

They are not adding other than:

This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here.

No extrapolating, it's only verified photographic/geolocated kills.

Correction, not "kills", equipment losses.

Extrapolation and guesstimation is where the "kills" is arrived at.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Well, you tried again, and apparently failed once again, to answer a simple question.

If you refuse to participate with facts or even speculate as to the numbers lost, that explains a lot also.

Won't change the fact that far too many poor sods no longer exist down to the whims of Putin, that's a given.

Put it this way you don't conscript people to replace losses if indeed they have not happened.

originally posted by: MykeNukem
Correction, not "kills", equipment losses.

Kills as in equipment kills. It's a monstrous amount, 2,000 tanks alone, and there's obviously much more they can't 100% verify.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

Well, you tried again, and apparently failed, once again, to answer a simple question.

If you refuse to participate with facts or even speculate, that explains a lot also.

What are you on about?

I responded to a claim of fact, that wasn't a fact, that's why I was here in the first place.

Participate with what? You have no facts, that's the problem, lmao.

I'm not here for Pub Politics, mate.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: MykeNukem
Correction, not "kills", equipment losses.

Kills as in equipment kills. It's a monstrous amount, 2,000 tanks alone, and there's obviously much more they can't 100% verify.

Ok great.

That still has nothing to do with the claim I was disputing.

Which was BS.

a reply to: MykeNukem

I am asking you a simple question.

How many poor sods do you imagine have died or been blown apart for Putin's failed wet dream in Ukraine?

It's not rocket science, and you are disputing the numbers, aka 200,000 or thereabouts hence the reason i ask as to your opinion on the matter.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

I am asking you a simple question.

How many poor sods do you imagine have died or been blown apart for Putin's failed wet dream in Ukraine?

It's not rocket science, and you are disputing the numbers, aka 200,000 or thereabouts hence the reason i ask as to your opinion on the matter.

Why?

What does me guessing accomplish?

That's the exact type of thing I'm disputing.

Guessing and then stating it as dogma is BS.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Why not?

You're disputing the 200,000 mark are you not?

If that is not the case, then what do you imagine the losses to be?

More, less?

It's not that hard a conundrum, and if you are disputing the numbers, then i imagine there must be a reason why.

Are Russia reporting the numbers lost?

originally posted by: MykeNukem
Ok great.

That still has nothing to do with the claim I was disputing.

Which was BS.

You think 10,000 pieces of destroyed equipment drives/flies itself? The causalities are huge for these alone, then you add what happens with infantry and it's even more.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

I am asking you a simple question.

How many poor sods do you imagine have died or been blown apart for Putin's failed wet dream in Ukraine?

It's not rocket science, and you are disputing the numbers, aka 200,000 or thereabouts hence the reason i ask as to your opinion on the matter.

Why?

What does me guessing accomplish?

That's the exact type of thing I'm disputing.

Guessing and then stating it as dogma is BS.

Lets just make it simple.

Your boys are taking a hell of a beating. That's not in dispute.

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

I am asking you a simple question.

How many poor sods do you imagine have died or been blown apart for Putin's failed wet dream in Ukraine?

It's not rocket science, and you are disputing the numbers, aka 200,000 or thereabouts hence the reason i ask as to your opinion on the matter.

Why?

What does me guessing accomplish?

That's the exact type of thing I'm disputing.

Guessing and then stating it as dogma is BS.

Lets just make it simple.

Your boys are taking a hell of a beating. That's not in dispute.

You have been so consistently wrong that I consider it laughable.

K?

a reply to: MykeNukem

So why are the Russians having to pull the likes of antiquated T-64s out of mothballs and bring those to the front lines if indeed they are doing so well in Ukraine?

Oryx, an independent team of analysts that has tracked open-source intelligence on equipment losses throughout the war, estimated that more than 1,700 Russian tanks have been destroyed, damaged or captured.

www.wsj.com...

originally posted by: andy06shake
So why are the Russians having to pull the likes of antiquated T-64s out of mothballs and bring those to the front lines if indeed they are doing so well in Ukraine?

Worse, T-54's.

And that February article is already way out of date, the tank losses are now a confirmed 2,000 with others besides that.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

So why are the Russians having to pull the likes of antiquated T-64s out of mothballs and bring those to the front lines if indeed they are doing so well in Ukraine?

Oryx, an independent team of analysts that has tracked open-source intelligence on equipment losses throughout the war, estimated that more than 1,700 Russian tanks have been destroyed, damaged or captured.

www.wsj.com...

You seem to have a whole narrative prepared around what I haven't said.

Well done!

a reply to: MykeNukem

Well, you have been asked, repeatedly no less.

Hardly our fault you refuse to state your position or opinion.