Astra Zenaka banned in Australia

Who would have thought that they would have finally wised up? So it's out of favor in the UK and Australia and the WHO is still saying that it is safe and effective. So this little bit of nastiness has some serious side effects. Since the Russian Sputnik seems to be a clone of Astra Zenaka, could we suggest that China's vaccine was a clone of a clone? So they might have some serious problems.

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AstraZeneca no longer an approved COVID-19 vaccine

The Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) is no longer an approved COVID-19 vaccine, the Australian Government Department of Health and Aged Care announced last month.

originally posted by: anonentity
Who would have thought that they would have finally wised up? So it's out of favor in the UK and Australia and the WHO is still saying that it is safe and effective. So this little bit of nastiness has some serious side effects. Since the Russian Sputnik seems to be a clone of Astra Zenaka, could we suggest that China's vaccine was a clone of a clone? So they might have some serious problems.

No. China’s vaccine is a classic attenuated virus vaccine. It’s not a clone of anything. It’s exactly the good old fashioned kind of vaccine that anti-vaxxers seem to like.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: anonentity
Who would have thought that they would have finally wised up? So it's out of favor in the UK and Australia and the WHO is still saying that it is safe and effective. So this little bit of nastiness has some serious side effects. Since the Russian Sputnik seems to be a clone of Astra Zenaka, could we suggest that China's vaccine was a clone of a clone? So they might have some serious problems.

No. China’s vaccine is a classic attenuated virus vaccine. It’s not a clone of anything. It’s exactly the good old fashioned kind of vaccine that anti-vaxxers seem to like.

If "anti vaxxer" means someone who doesn't accept a forced bioweapon, then that's a compliment.

Too bad for you that you can never go back on what you've said to support these garbage vaccines, just double down, triple down, and paint yourself in a corner.

a reply to: 1947boomer

But isn't that what they said about Sputik in the early days?

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: 1947boomer

But isn't that what they said about Sputik in the early days?

Yes.

The Russian vaccine existed prior to the AstraZeneca vaccine, as did the Chinese one.

But in the crazy world of conspiracy theorists, time means nothing, and vastly different things are all closely related.



Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) - Australian Department of Health and Aged Care

a reply to: chr0naut


Well maybe they turbo warp speeded it and just pipped the West in the development of it or maybe they didn't, the BS is staggering in all sectors. edwardslavsquat.substack.com...
So if you read this article in its entirety you will realize that Russia is subject to the same restraints that the West is being subject to, if a doctor speaks out he is labeled an enemy of the people and a terrorist. Their equivalent of Facebook also has undergone the same restraints so I think we know where we are going.
So a conspiracy theorist might think that the Russian pharma was in with the Anglo Sweedish maker of the vaccine, and got a good payday at least in the early days until people started to drop. Then an investigation totally changed Putin's mind and he went after the Bio labs in Ukraine as payback.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

Well maybe they turbo warp speeded it and just pipped the West in the development of it or maybe they didn't, the BS is staggering in all sectors. edwardslavsquat.substack.com...
So if you read this article in its entirety you will realize that Russia is subject to the same restraints that the West is being subject to, if a doctor speaks out he is labeled an enemy of the people and a terrorist. Their equivalent of Facebook also has undergone the same restraints so I think we know where we are going.

The AstraZeneca vaccine and the Russian Sputnik vaccine are both viral vector vaccines. That is they use another 'benign' virus to carry attributes of a disease pathogen into the cell.

The 'viral-vector' bit is the method of delivery of the payload. They can have vastly different payloads, even if the delivery system is identical.

Viral vector vaccines have been in common use since 1972. Generally, the payload in viral vector vaccines has been genetically engineered, however this is different than mRNA vaccines.

In the case of the AstraZeneca vaccine, it is believed that the adenovirus used as the delivery mechanism is the cause of many of its adverse reactions.

As the Sputnik vaccine also uses adenoviri, it is reasonable to expect that it should have a similar profile of adverse reactions as the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Also, I am fairly sure that Putin's attack on Ukraine was not limited to bio-labs and was motivated by a desire to reestablish the previous dominance of a Soviet Bloc, a process he began in several former Soviet countries, since the 1990's, rather than anything to do with COVID or pharmacology.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: anonentity
Who would have thought that they would have finally wised up? So it's out of favor in the UK and Australia and the WHO is still saying that it is safe and effective. So this little bit of nastiness has some serious side effects. Since the Russian Sputnik seems to be a clone of Astra Zenaka, could we suggest that China's vaccine was a clone of a clone? So they might have some serious problems.

No. China’s vaccine is a classic attenuated virus vaccine. It’s not a clone of anything. It’s exactly the good old fashioned kind of vaccine that anti-vaxxers seem to like.

No need for vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality and no need for defending the pharmaceuticals.

Your anrivaxxer label is a pejorative that has no weight in a conversation as you don't have any other valid arguments to use. Bottom line: The Astrazeneca vaccine has been withdrawn from most countries that have ever used it including the UK which is the country that manufactured the vaccine.

Another massive blow to the vaccine ideology.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

Well maybe they turbo warp speeded it and just pipped the West in the development of it or maybe they didn't, the BS is staggering in all sectors. edwardslavsquat.substack.com...
So if you read this article in its entirety you will realize that Russia is subject to the same restraints that the West is being subject to, if a doctor speaks out he is labeled an enemy of the people and a terrorist. Their equivalent of Facebook also has undergone the same restraints so I think we know where we are going.

The AstraZeneca vaccine and the Russian Sputnik vaccine are both viral vector vaccines. That is they use another 'benign' virus to carry attributes of a disease pathogen into the cell.

The 'viral-vector' bit is the method of delivery of the payload. They can have vastly different payloads, even if the delivery system is identical.

Viral vector vaccines have been in common use since 1972. Generally, the payload in viral vector vaccines has been genetically engineered, however this is different than mRNA vaccines.

In the case of the AstraZeneca vaccine, it is believed that the adenovirus used as the delivery mechanism is the cause of many of its adverse reactions.

As the Sputnik vaccine also uses adenoviri, it is reasonable to expect that it should have a similar profile of adverse reactions as the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Also, I am fairly sure that Putin's attack on Ukraine was not limited to bio-labs and was motivated by a desire to reestablish the previous dominance of a Soviet Bloc, a process he began in several former Soviet countries, since the 1990's, rather than anything to do with COVID or pharmacology.

This analysis of yours is just irrelevant on this thread and an attempt to go off topic as it seems. The major point is that the Astrazeneca vaccine has been withdrawn from most countries that have ever used it including the UK which is the country that manufactured the vaccine. A blow to the vaccine ideology and to the official narratives.

It has killed and seriously injured many people. It is known to cause 'rare' strokes...

a reply to: 1947boomer

It’s exactly the good old fashioned kind of vaccine that anti-vaxxers seem to like.

You realize that statement makes absolutely zero sense.....

The greatest medical scandal in history

a reply to: Asmodeus3
Over 12 months of Long Covid here..

originally posted by: Blackfinger
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Over 12 months of Long Covid here..

Hope you are doing better. But this isn't related to the vaccine injuries seen in massive numbers with all the available vaccines on market.

Meanwhile in reality

The spokesperson wanted to emphasise the decision to phase out Vaxzevria was “not a decision based on safety as some people have misrepresented on social media”, but by the increased supply of alternative Covid vaccine options.

“As expected, first generation vaccines have been superseded by newer vaccines targeting the strains of the virus now circulating.”

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a reply to: ScepticScot

They would say that wouldn't they?

a reply to: anonentity

I remember when they pulled Astra Zeneca here in the U.S. for a few months back in June 2021 stating that it was causing people signs of neurological diseases and disorders. I'm surprised it ever found its way back on the shelf.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: ScepticScot

They would say that wouldn't they?

Since it makes perfect sense yes.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Then in your world what is causing the rise in the pre covid death rate and disability rates?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: ScepticScot

They would say that wouldn't they?

Since it makes perfect sense yes.

It does not make perfect sense when we know the vaccines' record was already tainted early on when vaccines first started rolling out. It was definitely a safety issue that caused the vaccine to be temporarily halted here in the U.S. in 2021.