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originally posted by: MykeNukem
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MykeNukem
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: MykeNukem
There are peace negotiations and then there is rewarding an invading aggressor. That is generally called "appeasement".
Which, as history tells us, encourages further bad stuff.
"As usual"?
Rule #3, revert to Talking Point #1, if #2 didn't work.
Well done.
As opposed to a strategy of not actually discussing any of the points raised....
What was raised?
The 2 MSM talking points?
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originally posted by: DerBeobachter
Don´t people see in which crazy times we live meanwhile:
“War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength”
It all reads to me like you mean: "Ukrainians are killing massive numbers of Russian soldiers with ammunition and weapons supplied by the West, and Russia will be defeated if it's not stopped. Boohoo, blubber, sob sob, and waah."
A new study from the Pentagon shows that 77% of young Americans would not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, using drugs or having mental and physical health problems.
No amount of wriggling or spin will alter the FACT that Russia invaded Ukraine
originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Freeborn
The 1991/1994 treaty didn't say to Ukraine you have the right attack the Russian speaking Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine.
Of course Ukrainian supporters always bring up that Clinton agreement.
originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Freeborn
The Budapest Memorandum.
Ah yes that old 1991,1994 agreement when the Soviets felt down? you know what was also agreed in that Budapest Memorandum agreement?
The consequence for Ukraine's independence from Russia as a former province was for Ukraine to stay and remain neutral.
Considering you had Soros admitted on interviews that he had spend billions on Ukraine shows the US was pushing Ukraine into EU and NATO.
I am not going to bother on posting it because if i do your side will just deny it or ignore it.
They attacked Ukraine after Ukraine kept attacking Donbass for 8 years.
Its why Russia attacked Ukraine.
The consequence for Ukraine's independence from Russia as a former province was for Ukraine to stay and remain neutral.
Considering you had Soros admitted on interviews that he had spend billions on Ukraine shows the US was pushing Ukraine into EU and NATO.
Do you know why the Ukrainian war is happening? remember what happened 14 years ago? NATO/US promised an argued for anti-ballistic defense to shield Europe from future Iranian missiles.
Its never about Iran its about Russia and taking down and destroying Russia as a civilization.