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originally posted by: Xtrozero
A couple of points. Seems like most are women, I wonder why... How many were vacced? As to Musicians, I would bet my bottom dollar there are some good drugs involved. I think we have a serious drug problem on a scale people just do not want to think about. It is crazy howe many young people casually say "oh I take antidepressant."
You and I can debate vaccines until the cows come home, but people taking a cocktail of drugs year in and year out is really doing a number on them, especially healthy young people.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
in the interest of facts, and reality, it would be good to see this same data set over a several year period so we can filter out the normal from the abnormal. My paycheck is the same regardless of the outcome, so I'm hoping for real facts and truth. I'm not fearful of either answer, I hope others would be the same, rather than dig in and ignore facts. (both sides)
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
SOURCE - 21 Collapses
Carlson, who is also a health coach, revealed she checked into the hospital following her loss of consciousness while trying to give a weather report. She said though she has a history of fainting she had been worried she might be having a heart attack but that medical tests revealed it wasn’t heart-related. Instead, she said, it was related to a previous diagnosis of vasovagal syncope.
originally posted by: network dude
in the interest of facts, and reality, it would be good to see this same data set over a several year period so we can filter out the normal from the abnormal. My paycheck is the same regardless of the outcome, so I'm hoping for real facts and truth. I'm not fearful of either answer, I hope others would be the same, rather than dig in and ignore facts. (both sides)
21 people collapsed from heat stroke! Oh no, could it be that they were vaccinated! Oh noes! The end.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
in the interest of facts, and reality, it would be good to see this same data set over a several year period so we can filter out the normal from the abnormal. My paycheck is the same regardless of the outcome, so I'm hoping for real facts and truth. I'm not fearful of either answer, I hope others would be the same, rather than dig in and ignore facts. (both sides)
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
in the interest of facts, and reality, it would be good to see this same data set over a several year period so we can filter out the normal from the abnormal. My paycheck is the same regardless of the outcome, so I'm hoping for real facts and truth. I'm not fearful of either answer, I hope others would be the same, rather than dig in and ignore facts. (both sides)
Like with the atheletes collapsing there isn't much academic study of it prior to 2021.
That means that either it was happening just like it is now and somehow nobody noticed (odd given we've been saturated with cameras for over a decade) or it wasn't happening so was not studied due to little consequence.
That it's happening with a backdrop of consistent excess deaths in the double digits also correlating to vaccine rollout removes much of the ambiguity for those paying attention. Most of the atheletes and entertainers in the West were required to be vaccinated if they were actively performing and they also tell us the vast majority of the population have been vaccinated. If these atheletes and performers are not increases above baseline then that means they are not part of the excess death numbers. So then, where are the relatively young people dying if these public deaths are totally normal and part of expected excess deaths?
Essentially the pro-vax tactic is now just a shell game. It has nothing to do with curiosity, otherwise we might be seeing some effort to discover the cause. It's purely about vaccine defense. Nothing is from the vax even when it's from conditions listed as side-effects, but all their defense of the vaccine does is shift the excess deaths somewhere else. It is undeniable that excess deaths are higher than expected mostly in demographics at no risk from COVID and have remained there since shortly after vaccine rollout.
As of yet I've only seen half-hearted parroting of things like delayed treatment and other things that do not fit the numbers. There are not increases in rare cancers in young people because of delayed treatment. Many of the excuses being used work okay if you ignore all the other data, but collectively there is no way to make those numbers make sense. So the shell game moves them around and the evil anti-vaxers can never pin them on vaccines. A 10-20% rise in the total excess deaths of an entire population cannot be explained by 10-20% rises that only involve small target groups. If so those target groups would see much higher rates, 50-100%+, and that's just how numbers work. For small groups to have a large impact on total aggregate numbers it has to be very pronounced. Where are they?
The number of prominent experts coming out for a complete halt of mRNA vaccines is growing larger, which naturally is not reported by a media that gets massive amounts of money from pharma sponsorship. This is why the data had to be hidden and all all dissent had to be censored to the point of demonizing those presenting it. They couldn't risk these unencumbered experts getting exposed to data that showed the fraud too early. They had to leverage institutional trust, while engaging in unprecedented levels of censorship, even if it meant that trust would be destroyed for decades into the future. That's how much they wanted this in your body. That loss of trust was a known outcome. We knew about this in public health for decades, we figured it into our plans how we maintain public trust and knew the consequences of losing it were dire. The contracts were already made, so they already were making money. Fauci, the CDC, the FDA, all still burned that essential public trust while knowing the consequences. Why so desperate to get an ineffective temporary "vaccine" into the whole population as fast as possible under enormous pressure?
It was always just a matter of time. It's too big to hide. Maybe they really were just hoping for the problems from trials and past studies to magically disappear and for no more to show up, but that just makes it negligent rather than criminal. The attempts to cover it up are criminal either way. There are deeper psychological reasons too, directed at the population, but that is more complicated than I feel like fleshing out. In about three more years we'll have the first complete picture, even with their attempts to hide and manipulate it.
originally posted by: Mahogany
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
I'm loving this new approach to COVID denialism.
After EVERY single scam fell through, like ivermectin and bleach and hydroxychloroquine, and whatever else you guys were making up or parroting for others...
...your current posts and approach are soooo... vague. Very, very vague. You no longer post any evidence, you no longer engage in anything that can be easily debunked. All of a sudden every post is so vague and could apply to anything, all in the interest of making it more difficult to debunk -- but that's only because there is nothing to debunk!
21 people collapsed from heat stroke! Oh no, could it be that they were vaccinated! Oh noes! The end.
And you post zero link or evidence between the two, zilch, nada... all just baseless speculation that no one with even a high school education would fall for.
But it is entertaining to watch, I'm loving how you all gave up on any facts or evidence.